BRAND NEW!!! KAHLES K328i 3.5-28x50 Riflescope

Yea, the 525i I used to have was great with the left hand wind turret. For a right hand shooter, you didn't have to take your trigger hand off the rifle to make any quick adjusting. Just made a lot of sense, and was actually better.

Kinda like my left side bolt handle on the 10/22, just better to use it there.

For me, its def an intriguing scope, just a larger footprint than I would want in one though, but I will keep my eyes on it.
 
I am intrigued and will evaluate swapping my ZC527 with one of these. I need more information before doing that, such as reviews and eyes in the scope in the field.

Some complaints:
-No where does it describe this "DLR" feature - I have no idea what it is
-Spec sheet doesn't list turret travel
-The official video is cringe and sans information
 
adamg said:
I am intrigued and will evaluate swapping my ZC527 with one of these. I need more information before doing that, such as reviews and eyes in the scope in the field.

Some complaints:
-No where does it describe this "DLR" feature - I have no idea what it is
-Spec sheet doesn't list turret travel
-The official video is cringe and sans information
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I promise you it will be worth your while.

Anyway, here are some explanations that might help you.

DLR stands for Dynamic Long Range. Kahles had the "normal" K525i, and some shooters asked for enhancements to it, so Kahles launched the DLR a few years ago. What the DLR included over the normal K525i was:
1) 10 MILS per revolution instead of 16 MILS for the "normal" K525i, and that meant MUCH larger numbers and way more widely spaced clicks - this helped with reading the numbers especially when you couldn't read the small numbers that well anymore (I'm 57, and the DLR to me was a massively welcome addition to somewhat deteriorating eyesight.
2) The DLR had an 8% increased field of view over the "normal" K525i
3) The DLR was priced slightly higher than the "normal" K525i as it INCLUDED the throw lever and Parallax Spinner which the "normal" K525i did NOT include.

So when they launched the new K328i this week, they ALSO did it in a DLR version, but on the K328i DLR, the ONLY difference is the 10 MILS per revolution on the DLR vs 16 MILS on the non-DLR version.

Throw lever and Parallax Spinner are NOT included, and the price is exactly the same on both versions, and so too is the field of view. The DLR and the "normal" K328i now have the exact same field of view, which is 40% WIDER than the K525i.

As to turret travel, I put that in my very first post - 34 MILS of elevation travel and 13 MILS of Windage.

I hope that clears up some questions.

And here are the SPECS:

Magnification: 3,5 - 28
Objective lens diameter (mm): 50
Field of view (m/100m): 14,3 - 1,8
Exit pupil diameter (mm): 1,8 - 7,4
Eye relief (mm): 92
Diopter compensation (dpt.): +2 / -3
Parallax adjustment (m): 20 - ∞
Windage: left / right
Adjustment direction: CCW
Adjustment range E/W (m/100m) (MIL): 3,4m / 1,3m : 34 MIL/ 13 MIL
DLR-elevation turret incl. EasyRead: YES
Impact correction per click: .1 MRAD
Tube diameter (mm): 36
Focal plane: 1st
Reticles: SKMR+, SKMR4+
Illuminated: YES
Twilight factor (DIN 58388): 13,2 - 37,4
Zero Stop: YES
TWIST GUARD: YES
Waterproof: YES
Length (mm): 360
Weight (g): 1040
Battery type: CR2032
Warranty (years): 10 (2 electronics)
Objective filter thread: M52 x 0,75
Accessories (optional): Flip Up Cover objective/ocular, Parallax, Spinner, Sunshield, Killflash, ARD
 
Thanks Robbie. Good info.

Now I'll just have to get a look at one. It sounds like they applied the recent "NL PURE" design strategy of increasing FOV at a given magnification, to this scope design. It was a win in the NL Pure binos, so this scope might be a win, too.

The specs on your website only list the turret adjustment range in meters @ 100 m, which is a strange way to specify an angular adjustment. Not to mention that it increases the error in the figure by including the approximation that 34 mrad equals 3.4 m at 100m. Your post has the more conventional angular values, which is appreciated.

Regarding the 16 mrad / revolution, I'd be interested in the diameter of the elevation turret, to compare to the ZCO527's 15 mrad/revolution turret. The ZCO turret is a large diameter to help with accommodating the 15 mrad onto the turret, both visually and for the hand. If the Kahles turret is a smaller diameter at 16 mrad/rev, that would be a different experience.
 
adamg said:
Thanks Robbie. Good info.

Now I'll just have to get a look at one. It sounds like they applied the recent "NL PURE" design strategy of increasing FOV at a given magnification, to this scope design. It was a win in the NL Pure binos, so this scope might be a win, too.

The specs on your website only list the turret adjustment range in meters @ 100 m, which is a strange way to specify an angular adjustment. Not to mention that it increases the error in the figure by including the approximation that 34 mrad equals 3.4 m at 100m. Your post has the more conventional angular values, which is appreciated.

Regarding the 16 mrad / revolution, I'd be interested in the diameter of the elevation turret, to compare to the ZCO527's 15 mrad/revolution turret. The ZCO turret is a large diameter to help with accommodating the 15 mrad onto the turret, both visually and for the hand. If the Kahles turret is a smaller diameter at 16 mrad/rev, that would be a different experience.
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Happy to help clarify adamg.

They did the exact same tech as per the NL Pure. I spoke with a well known, VERY high-end optics manufacturer here at Shot, and he said their engineers in Europe were pretty flabbergasted at how Swarovski was able to get the field of view out of the NL Pure, and now with the K328i. It really is a game changer.

I have since amended the specs on my website to show Imperial AND Metric measurements, and I have attached them here too for ease of reference.

So there's no "increase in error" when reading adjustment in meters vs MILS at 100m, as 1 click is 0.1 MIL at 100m or 1cm at 100m and 100 clicks is 10 MIL or 1m at 100m. So 3.4m adjustment is just 340 clicks or 34 MIL.

I'll go measure the diameter of the turret cap for you, and will report back here this afternoon.

Cheers

Robbie

IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS

Magnification: 3.5 - 28x
Eye relief: 3.62 in
Field of view: 42.9 - 5.4 ft/100 yds
Diopter compensation: +2 / -3 dpt
Twilight factor (DIN 58388): 13.2 - 37.4
Impact correction per click: 0.1 MRAD
Adjustment range (E/W): 122.4 in / 46.8 in/100 yds | 34.0 / 13.0 MILS | (114.7 / 43.9 MOA)
Parallax adjustment: 20 m to ∞
Tube diameter: 1.41 in
Length: 14.2 in
Weight: 36.7 oz
Focal plane: 1st
Illuminated: Yes
Warranty: 10 yrs (2 yrs electronics)

METRIC MEASUREMENTS

Magnification: 3.5 - 28
Objective lens diameter (mm): 50
Field of view (m/100m): 14.3 - 1.8
Exit pupil diameter (mm): 1.8 - 7.4
Eye relief (mm): 92
Diopter compensation (dpt.): +2 / -3
Parallax adjustment (m): 20m to ∞
Windage: left / right
Adjustment direction: CCW
Adjustment range E/W (m/100m): 3.4m / 1.3m (34 MIL / 13 MIL)
DLR-elevation turret incl. EasyRead: YES
Impact correction per click: .1 MRAD
Tube diameter (mm): 36
Focal plane: 1st
Reticles: SKMR+, SKMR4+
Illuminated: YES
Twilight factor (DIN 58388): 13.2 - 37.4
Zero Stop: YES
TWIST GUARD: YES
Waterproof: YES
Length (mm): 360
Weight (g): 1040
Battery type: CR2032
Warranty (years): 10 (2 electronics)
Objective filter thread: M52 x 0.75
Accessories (optional): Flip Up Cover objective/ocular, Parallax, Spinner, Sunshield, Killflash, ARD
 
Shooting Warehouse said:
So there's no "increase in error" when reading adjustment in meters vs MILS at 100m, as 1 click is 0.1 MIL at 100m or 1cm at 100m and 100 clicks is 10 MIL or 1m at 100m. So 3.4m adjustment is just 340 clicks or 34 MIL.
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The math we shooters use to go from distance and angle (i.e. 100m and 34 milradians) to a target size of 3.4 meters, is an approximation. The proper math puts the answer at 3.4013m. It's a tiny distinction, admittedly. Probably not worth mentioning... hehe.
 
Max Owner said:
I thought the Kahles scopes had 29 milrad of elevation.

Thanx for clarifying.

When I buy scopes, first thing I look at is elevation travel. Its a shame when people advertise scopes, they completely leave the elevation amount out.
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The new K328i has 34 MILS of elevation travel, and 13 MILS of Windage. And best feature of all, is the 40% wider field of view over the K525i, and an amazingly generous eyebox. I LOVE this new K328i. I must have gone back to the Swarovski booth 6 times over the 4 days of SHOT Show. And I had a really long discussion with the designer of this scope - seriously groundbreaking!!!
 
So do I pay a deposit and when they show up I pay the balance when its ready to ship? Is shipping included and how much tax if im in ontario? Any discount for seniors or CRPS< ORPS<X22 competitors. Rarely see Kahles on the firing line and not sure why. I own a 525i and 318i and love both of them. Maybe if they did discount or some sponsorship the sales would go way up. Worked for Athlon,Arken,Vortex and so many more.
 
Longstud said:
So do I pay a deposit and when they show up I pay the balance when its ready to ship? Is shipping included and how much tax if im in ontario? Any discount for seniors or CRPS< ORPS<X22 competitors. Rarely see Kahles on the firing line and not sure why. I own a 525i and 318i and love both of them. Maybe if they did discount or some sponsorship the sales would go way up. Worked for Athlon,Arken,Vortex and so many more.
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But it's not MOA....LOL
 
Longstud said:
So do I pay a deposit and when they show up I pay the balance when its ready to ship? Is shipping included and how much tax if im in ontario? Any discount for seniors or CRPS< ORPS<X22 competitors. Rarely see Kahles on the firing line and not sure why. I own a 525i and 318i and love both of them. Maybe if they did discount or some sponsorship the sales would go way up. Worked for Athlon,Arken,Vortex and so many more.
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I sent you a PM. Thanks.
 
Evogun said:
But it's not MOA....LOL
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Interesting comment, given I sell around 95% MIL and 5% MOA on scopes where both MIL and MOA are available. The market for MOA is getting smaller and smaller - even in the US. A close friend of mine is one of the largest optics dealers in the USA, and his sales reflect exactly the same trend. And Kahles sell so few MOA models, that they decided to do the K328i in MIL only at this time.
 
Evogun said:
But it's not MOA....LOL
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Correct but Kahles is awesome and its only math after all. Im old and prefer moa cuz im use to it but can and do use mil as well. That is by far the fastest response Ive ever had from a retailer. Truly impressive. Email will be sent shortly. Thanks Robbie
 
Longstud said:
Correct but Kahles is awesome and its only math after all. Im old and prefer moa cuz im use to it but can and do use mil as well. That is by far the fastest response Ive ever had from a retailer. Truly impressive. Email will be sent shortly. Thanks Robbie
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Thanks for the kind words "longstud" - my phone is always on, and when I'm awake, I work and am available - 365 days a year. Haha. I try and treat customers like I would like to be treated - but it's become impossible to get quick responses in this day and age. LOL.
 
Shooting Warehouse said:
Interesting comment, given I sell around 95% MIL and 5% MOA on scopes where both MIL and MOA are available. The market for MOA is getting smaller and smaller - even in the US. A close friend of mine is one of the largest optics dealers in the USA, and his sales reflect exactly the same trend. And Kahles sell so few MOA models, that they decided to do the K328i in MIL only at this time.
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No, it was a comment at Longstud he said he didn't want MiL in another thread. All my scopes are MIL for consistency and ease.
 
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