Brand new M-1 Garands from Springfield armory.

Wolverine used to sell these "new" Garands for $1800 but they are no longer in their catalogue. They were made from a mix of new parts and leftover GI components, not by the old Springfield Arms but a similar name company. So while they may be fine rifles they are not "real" Garands ie.correct WWII or Korean issue. If that matters to you; it does to me.
 
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menton said:
The Garand is the only semi-auto centre fire that can legally hold 8 rounds, while the SAFN 49 is the only centre fire to legally hold 10. I love mine, in 30-06, will never give it up. It also out performed the Garand in the hands of the Belgians in Korea.
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Really? I never heard that before on the FN49....
 
I have had a number of the Springfield Armory M14s over the years and they worked OK. I would think the M1s would work just as good as they did. Didn't Springfield Armory also sell the M1s in 270 a few years back?

It would be cheaper to have a 308 an barrel installed on an M1. I have a Springfield M1 that had a new 308 barrel installed and it works OK. I think I have one or two M1 barreld actions lying around that I can have another barrel installed. I have a friend that was involved in Living History, US (WW II 101st) down in the US and he used a Beretta M1.
I would like to get a Boyds stock for my 308.
 
menton said:
The Garand is the only semi-auto centre fire that can legally hold 8 rounds, while the SAFN 49 is the only centre fire to legally hold 10. I love mine, in 30-06, will never give it up. It also out performed the Garand in the hands of the Belgians in Korea.
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Oop's did you just let the cat out of the bag on a national internet Forum?? Lets all hope John Law is not observing.;)

However one a small note: I neglected to mention that the M-16, AR-15 and TAR-21 are both 10 round legal semi auto rifles, however that is due to a loop hole, they were not necessarily meant to be legal.

Stevo said:
No wonder, as it's completely incorrect.;)
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I agree. It did however come with a fixed 10 round box mag, which might lead people to believe that it was exempt as being an original antique part, but the laws showed no such mercy on 20 round box mags for BARs and other such mags, even with the grand fathered owners, because a prohibited firearm is not the same as a prohibited device, such as a magazine. one permit doesn’t cover both discrepancies. So mags have to be pinned. The only reason the Garand is not illegal is because its clips were made exempt. possibly because they could not be permanently capped without disturbing its function, unlike an FN-49 that can be.
 
There's no "loop hole". It's the magazines that are controlled by law, not what they're used in.

The Garand has a specific exemption that doesn't relate to the en bloc clip, but to the magazine the clip fits into.
 
"...why that rifle is in a 2010 gun catalog..." Error. Most likely the printer. Mind you, LeBaron's had the Ruger USGI(Mini-14 style rifle in .308) in their catalogue for two years after Ruger said they weren't going to build it. That was just stupidity.
"...only centre fire to legally hold 10..." Nope. Must be pinned to 5. There is no exemption for FN49s. The only centre fire rifle that can legally have a 10 round mag is the Lee-Enfield.
 
Busta Capp said:
I am surprised John from Marstar has not come up with a solution for this yet. Unless it is feared it will cannabalize the M14 market.
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Korea just release hundreds of thousands Korean war M1 Garands from their warehouse to be send back to the US for resale, it will essentially flood the US market, and without the support of the biggest civilian firearm no one will be tooling up to make them.
 
The only centre fire rifle that can legally have a 10 round mag is the Lee-Enfield.
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Can someone please explain this to me, why is the 'Lee' mentioned in canadian law. its a bolt action, all bolt actions are allowed 10 shots -or as many as you like for that mater. or is this something to do with its clips?
 
There were semi auto and full auto firearms which used the Lee-Enfield magazine.
 
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Can someone please explain this to me, why is the 'Lee' mentioned in canadian law. its a bolt action, all bolt actions are allowed 10 shots -or as many as you like for that mater. or is this something to do with its clips?
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Their was a full auto machine gun made during the first world war that took the Lee Enfield magazines. Most of these were destroyed as they were deemed a failure, and the remaining ones are VERY rare (were talking GOLD Hens teeth). But the CFC still felt that they needed to note the exemption in the laws.
 
sunray said:
The only centre fire rifle that can legally have a 10 round mag is the Lee-Enfield.
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Any bolt or pump gun can have an unlimited size mag. If that mag happens to work in a semi, you're good to go.

Case in point: AIA M10 mags in a Norinco M14. 10 rounds and perfectly legal.
 
touch157 said:
Just found another receipt which showed I bought 4 Garands the week before for $500 ($125ea!!!) and 7 bayonets for $175. I assume he raised the price when I went back. I had a nice Visa bill the next month.
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I kick myself when I think of those days.

I had just moved back to the Lower Mainland and made a beeline to Lever to see what was in the store. There were racks full of those Garands.

Because they seemed so cheap, I figured they were old and wornout clunkers.:rolleyes:

I can remember a big box of those bayonets over against the wall.
 
sunray said:
"...why that rifle is in a 2010 gun catalog..." Error. Most likely the printer. Mind you, LeBaron's had the Ruger USGI(Mini-14 style rifle in .308) in their catalogue for two years after Ruger said they weren't going to build it. That was just stupidity.
"...only centre fire to legally hold 10..." Nope. Must be pinned to 5. There is no exemption for FN49s. The only centre fire rifle that can legally have a 10 round mag is the Lee-Enfield.
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There is no restriction for magazine size on pump/lever/bolt rifles.
Semis are limited to 5 shots
Enfield magazines are mentioned due to their use in a rare Australian semi conversion whose name escapes me right now.
 
Stevo said:
Any bolt or pump gun can have an unlimited size mag. If that mag happens to work in a semi, you're good to go.

Case in point: AIA M10 mags in a Norinco M14. 10 rounds and perfectly legal.
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Sorry to break the bad news to you buddy, but the AIA uses enfield type mags, not M-14 mags, They are totally different rifles, they dont fit or feed one another, I cant say where that rumor started but it ended when I called Marstar and ask them. "Nope, they look like they will fit, but they just wont feed."
Yeah I could have cryed too.:(
 
This photo right here ruins it for me.


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308 on the left (Almost identical to .22lr :p), 30-06 on the right (Original caliber of the firearm).


If you can't have it in 30-06, your not a real man. ;)
 
=(M-1)= said:
Sorry to break the bad news to you buddy, but the AIA uses enfield type mags, not M-14 mags, They are totally different rifles, they dont fit or feed one another, I cant say where that rumor started but it ended when I called Marstar and ask them. "Nope, they look like they will fit, but they just wont feed."
Yeah I could have cryed too.:(
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Obviously, you don't have both rifles like I do.
 
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