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Have a look at an older M77 bolt to understand the crap now churned-out by Ruger.
Brand new ruger american ranch bolt face damage !! need INPUT
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Absolutely, but they were still double the price adjusting for inflation. This thread is eye opening to say the least, I can confidently say I’ll never buy one. I couldn’t bring myself to buy something so hastily made, zero pride in making those, nor will there be in owning one. Those m77 you speak of can be had used and cleaned up if needed for cheaper than these new. Mind you if it is the detachable magazines your after that’s not an option I suppose
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Not available in .223 or 7.62x39mm. Not available with a 16" barrel.
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The difference is really the cost to fill-up a tank of gas. The CZ527 is leagues ahead of some more expensive rifles, nevermind the entry crap by the bigger players. I really hope some of these companies go belly-up; the arms industry needs a reset, just like the global economy.
Sure the CZ 527 is a nice rifle but for some time unobtainium in Canada. The RAR is readily available for a reasonable price of about $709/749 (.223/7.62). And still the CZ 527 does not have a 16" barrel.
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I always chuckle to myself at the thought of some of these entry level POS slipping into the QC line of a 1950's Brno, Sako or Winchester plant? Could you imagine their horror? QC has been in slow decline for a long time; the younger generation simply have no baseline from which to compare, and are easily sold on gimmicks and slick marketing.
This actually made me smile a bit. That’s a reasonable price, when as many early model 77s are available that anyone could ask for, for the same price or less?
Had one RAR, a 30-06, for less than a month. Accurate enough for hunting, but made such a racket just operating the bolt it went to a new home quickly.
Ted
Ruger Americans are crap!
I watched a guy firing a brand new Ruger American at our gun range, and on the bench he had a cleaning rod for extracting cases! 3/4's of the cartridges would not extract with a normal bolt cycle.
Just pathetic... worst QC I've ever seen on a new rifle.
I watched a guy firing a brand new Ruger American at our gun range, and on the bench he had a cleaning rod for extracting cases! 3/4's of the cartridges would not extract with a normal bolt cycle.
Just pathetic... worst QC I've ever seen on a new rifle.
To put things in perspective, I bought my RAR in 2019 in 7.62x39mm, brand new, for $670. Since then, I've been shooting steel cased Norincos (white and red) and Barnauls as well as all available brands with brass cased ammo. Never ever had any extracting problem. Just saying.
For the very few positive stories that you have, there are 4-5 against the Ruger American.
Just saying.
Shot about that many here and no negatives yet. Owned 4 over the years. Never sold one cause it didnt perform. Zero problems yet aside from I dont like the rotary mag. Love the mini 30 and AI mags though. The 7.62x39 models shot very very well with ammo they liked and never badly with anything else. Seems the 300 blk may be a tack driver too.
Ted, I understand well your point about reasonable prices...how I wish 77s in 7.62x39 were available. Or that cheap when found. Would be all over that.
Ted, I understand well your point about reasonable prices...how I wish 77s in 7.62x39 were available. Or that cheap when found. Would be all over that.
Meh, paid $899 for a 527 in 7.62x39 new from Tenda couple years ago which was a deal, bought a 223 right after from Tesro for $1000.
They are high quality CRF that feed like a push feed, great fit/finish, solid steel mags, triggers you can adjust to feathers, plus the set trigger that goes even lighter, accurate barrels, there isn't anything in that price range even close.
The Ruger Americans I tried out were $400 at the time...new. They were not worth $400 back then.
They are high quality CRF that feed like a push feed, great fit/finish, solid steel mags, triggers you can adjust to feathers, plus the set trigger that goes even lighter, accurate barrels, there isn't anything in that price range even close.
The Ruger Americans I tried out were $400 at the time...new. They were not worth $400 back then.
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especially with the wood stock you scored.
Yeah that was lottery win kinda thing. But really what sets these apart is the quality of the barrelled actions. It's very rare you get a smooth CFR that is tight, no sloppy bolt wobble, and CRF that feels like a push feed.
I have a lot of Mauser actions, from S&L heavy target rifles, HVA 1600's, HVA 98's and 96's, Parker Hales, they vary from loose sloppy that need some force to load, to smooth as a pushfeed.
The 1600's and S&L and the 527's you couldn't tell they were CRF working the action, just tight smooth feeding.That requires some high quality manufacturing. And that is something I appreciate and will spend more for.
I'll always take CRF for a hunting rifle over push feed, just that little extra reliably is worth it. Sloppy CRF still work as intended, but you can run into some binding feeding. A smooth CRF that feels like a pushfeed is gold to me
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The 527 was an incredible bargain, and I wish I bought more.
