Brand New Sig Cross - Is a rusty bore OK?

Hunter7 said:
I would at least bring a rod and a few patches from home or borrow some from someone before taking possession of it. Sometimes what looked like rust in the bore is actually just grease or oil residue, I’ve see it on brand new rifles I’ve bought. But unless you actually run a cleaning patch through you won’t know for sure.
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Why in the Hell should the customer whose spending $2600 have to bring his own cleaning gear to clean up a rifle bore of a “New “ rifle he’s intent on Buying ? f:P:What the phuck is wrong :rolleyes:with that Store ? phuck them ! I won’t spend a Cent in there ! :mad: JMO RJ
 
If I were to walk back into that store I would have a bore scope hooked up to my laptop and see what else is hidden.
Avoid stress take the hit and walk away. Then out them!!
 
remington jim said:
Why in the Hell should the customer whose spending $2600 have to bring his own cleaning gear to clean up a rifle bore of a “New “ rifle he’s intent on Buying ? f:P:What the phuck is wrong :rolleyes:with that Store ? phuck them ! I won’t spend a Cent in there ! :mad: JMO RJ
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Why so hostile? New rifles tend to have crud in the bore and I prefer that the gun counter guy not go wild on every new rifle with his cleaning rod.
 
No you should NOT have to bring your own cleaning gear to the store. But in his case that seems to be the only option if he doesn’t want to lose a restocking fee on a refund but still wants the rifle if the bore is good. Even just a few Q-tips with some oil wiped on the bore at muzzle end shown in the picture would likely tell you if it is rust or just crud.
 
I sure wouldn't accept that rifle in that bores condition.
Even when you buy a new vehicle it's washed up to get the yard grime off it.

And the dealer should be embarrassed to present a rifle looking at that to their customer.

No one gifts a fiddlers fruck any more.................:pirate:

I too would like to know where this was offered.
 
If this turns out to be rust, not grese or other compounds, bring it back to the yokels, then dispute the charge with your CC company.

nuff said
 
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Hunter7 said:
No you should NOT have to bring your own cleaning gear to the store. But in his case that seems to be the only option if he doesn’t want to lose a restocking fee on a refund but still wants the rifle if the bore is good. Even just a few Q-tips with some oil wiped on the bore at muzzle end shown in the picture would likely tell you if it is rust or just crud.
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Bring Q tips ??? is this a joke?

there is no restocking fee for defectives items, because defective items should be restocked, to avoid comitting fraud.
 
wow
would hate to see what the inside of the bore looks like - even if you remove all the rust there you will likely have some pitting
it does look dirty one would expect that the thread protector and crown would be cleaner for a new rifle

now time to let us know which store did this
 
partial said:
Bring Q tips ??? is this a joke?

there is no restocking fee for defectives items, because defective items should be restocked, to avoid comitting fraud.
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Oh yeah, tell that to Cabelas! A friend of mine went through a similar situation. Bought a brand new rifle in box from them. Brand new rifle was defective. Cabelas would NOT refund or exchange. Said only thing they could do is buy it back from him for about 25% less than he paid for it or he could deal with the manufacturer himself for warranty. So if they are buying back a defective rifle, what are they doing with it? So if the OP doesn’t want to pay the 3% fee on the refund his only other option IS to clean and inspect in the store and take possession IF it checks out ok. Some stores are great to deal with others are not.
 
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Oh yeah, tell that to Cabelas! A friend of mine went through a similar situation. Bought a brand new rifle in box from them. Brand new rifle was defective. Cabelas would NOT refund or exchange. Said only thing they would do is buy it back from him for 25% less than he paid for it or he could deal with the manufacturer himself for warranty. So if they are buying back a defective rifle, what are they doing with it?
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That's why I pay with my visa. If there is a problem you have the recourse of doing a chargeback, then the retailer can deal with your VISA company.
 
Cabelas :

CABELA'S AND BASS PRO SHOPS CANADA RETURN POLICY

We work hard every day to satisfy our customers. If you are not completely satisfied, we will provide a refund for items returned with a receipt (and a store credit for items returned without a receipt) within 60 days of the date of purchase, subject to the details and exclusions below.

RETURN POLICY DETAILS AND PROCEDURES:

WITH A RECEIPT: For items returned with a receipt within 60 days of date of purchase, the refund will be at the original purchase price plus applicable sales tax, in the original method of payment.

RETURNS WITHOUT RECEIPT: STORE CREDIT For items returned without a receipt within 60 days of date of purchase, the store credit will be at the item’s lowest sale price plus applicable sales tax.

ALL RETURNS: OPTION TO EXCHANGE For all items returned within 60 days of date of purchase, with or without a receipt, instead of the applicable refund or store credit you can choose to exchange the item for the exact same product, if available.


* “ EXCLUSIONS—THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE NOT COVERED BY THIS RETURN POLICY:” *

Firearms, black-powder guns, ammunition, gunpowder, primers, reloading lead and brass, bullets, binary explosives, treestands, and mouth calls. All sales of these products are final.
 
remington jim said:
Cabelas :

CABELA'S AND BASS PRO SHOPS CANADA RETURN POLICY

We work hard every day to satisfy our customers. If you are not completely satisfied, we will provide a refund for items returned with a receipt (and a store credit for items returned without a receipt) within 60 days of the date of purchase, subject to the details and exclusions below.

RETURN POLICY DETAILS AND PROCEDURES:

WITH A RECEIPT: For items returned with a receipt within 60 days of date of purchase, the refund will be at the original purchase price plus applicable sales tax, in the original method of payment.

RETURNS WITHOUT RECEIPT: STORE CREDIT For items returned without a receipt within 60 days of date of purchase, the store credit will be at the item’s lowest sale price plus applicable sales tax.

ALL RETURNS: OPTION TO EXCHANGE For all items returned within 60 days of date of purchase, with or without a receipt, instead of the applicable refund or store credit you can choose to exchange the item for the exact same product, if available.


* “ EXCLUSIONS—THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE NOT COVERED BY THIS RETURN POLICY:” *

Firearms, black-powder guns, ammunition, gunpowder, primers, reloading lead and brass, bullets, binary explosives, treestands, and mouth calls. All sales of these products are final.
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Just because it is their store policy, doesn't make it the law.

The firearms exclusion has nothing to do with a defective firearm. If a service is not delivered, or a product is defective any CC company will immediately perform a charge back.

Store policies are worth bat sh*t!
 
partial said:
Just because it is their store policy, doesn't make it the law.

The firearms exclusion has nothing to do with a defective firearm. If a service is not delivered, or a product is defective any CC company will immediately perform a charge back.

Store policies are worth bat sh*t!
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I know just showing Cabelas BABBLE ! shows in the first sentence YOU NEED TO BE COMPLETELY SATISFIED ! :p
Then below EXCLUSIONS ! doesn’t cover this and that etc etc ! :mad:
 
From a different thread that was talking about having to pay return shipping for a defective gun:

Here are examples of things a retailer cannot contract out of, even if they attempt to by stating it in their terms of sale:

(1) they cannot limit liability for misrepresentation or fraud.

(2) they cannot compel customers to resolve disputes through arbitration instead of court.

(3) they cannot limit or exclude liability for negligence.

(4) they cannot limit liability for the supply of defective goods.


In Ontario, a customer is never bound by any terms of sale that contravene the above, even if he agrees to the terms by making a purchase.

The 4th one is relevant here. That falls under both the Consumer Protection Act and the Sale of Goods Act.

Here are the relevant clauses from the Sale of Goods Act (for ON, but likely similar for other provinces):

14. Where there is a contract for the sale of goods by description, there is an implied condition that the goods will correspond with the description, and, if the sale is by sample as well as by description, it is not sufficient that the bulk of the goods corresponds with the sample if the goods do not also correspond with the description. R.S.O. 1990, c. S.1, s. 14.


16. (2)(c) that the goods will be free from any defect rendering them unmerchantable that would not be apparent on reasonable examination of the sample. R.S.O. 1990, c. S.1, s. 16.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...Warranty-issue
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I'd think nothing of taking a sales outlet to court on this sort of crap.
Pass the buck onto the unsuspecting customer.
It stinks to high heaven.

Get them served with a writ and watch things happen.

It would take a corrupt judge to side with the dealer.
 
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