Brant Halloween match
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Fortunately Brant is one of the few clubs that does not believe that high round count automatically means a good match and one of the main reasons I go there. All too many times match directors base their stage designs on maximizing round count. If all I was worried about is putting maximum number of rounds downrange I would never go to matches. I'd just stay at my home club and do my 300+ round practices. I go to matches for quality courses of fire and to see what an imaginative match director can come up with and Brant never disappoints. If you don't attend IPSC matches because the round count is too low for you, it's probably for the best because we are just having way too much fun for you to handle...lol
You'll notice that no one who has shot the match in question, so far, has had any complaint about the round count or lack of meal provided. When I did the Sharon level II last April I had 8 stages and less than 100 rounds and there were no complaints then either. My suggestion is to get out and try these matches before writing them off. Or you'll never know what you are missing.
You'll notice that no one who has shot the match in question, so far, has had any complaint about the round count or lack of meal provided. When I did the Sharon level II last April I had 8 stages and less than 100 rounds and there were no complaints then either. My suggestion is to get out and try these matches before writing them off. Or you'll never know what you are missing.
I just don't f**kin' get it how you can be such an arrogant prick.Some day, you just might find yourself shooting your match all by yourself.
There was nothing arrogant about my post. Maybe you're just having a bad day
EASY- Yes I have worked on organizing a number of matches and yes i do compete on a regular basis and do fairly well! What bothers me is critics who voice negative opinions when they did not attend, experience or witness goings on for themselves.
Hard to see if your eyes are not open!
We all must keep ourselves in check.
Hard to see if your eyes are not open!
We all must keep ourselves in check.
Onagoth- I did read were you said you may have been thinking of the wrong match. this match was a Haloween match, it just happened the same as mistakes may, it would be unfair to judge your matches (which was posted as being good) as i have not been to one nor would I feel it right to say anything negative if i didn't attend. IPSC or IDPA a great amount of effort entails to organize and set up and that far outweighs a small fee to shoot.
We must remember most shooters are volunteers!
We must remember most shooters are volunteers!
A low round count doesn't guarantee a good match either. I drive upwards of 2 hours for some matches, the last thing I want is a 4 stage 60 round match. To draw a comparison, our clubs nights are 4 stages, 50-60 rounds and cost $5. Granted the stages aren't as great, but you can draw a correlation.
And yes, a free lunch does improve the quality of a match...All else being equal, a match with a free lunch is that much better. You think I would continually travel to these IDPA matches if they weren't great matches? (not likely, even if a lunch was included).
Both....I've had some good meals at the matches I shoot, and it becomes part of the reason I go. It's not uncommon for me to start asking about lunch after the first stage.
This comment was kind of interesting from you, considering your first post was asking whether or not its worth the time and money.
Many do, virtually all IDPA clubs in SW Ontario, and our club is no exception. If lunch isn't available for whatever reason, the match fee is usually only $15.
This wasn't meant to start a pissing match, but seriously, I'm unwilling to pay $25 for a match that is 4 stages, low round count that doesn't include a lunch. I'd rather save that money for a match that does.
Quigley, it doesn't necessarily mean that I won't be out to IPSC matches...I don't see this issue as being related to one discipline or the other, seems to be more of a club specific thing.
My goal is simple. To keep the sport as cheap as possible and to give people as reason to come out and shoot. The cheaper the sport is, the more people you'll have shooting it. When more people are buying handguns and shooting more, everyone wins. I have an obligation to the members at EESA to 'earn our keep' and provide the sport to anyone willing, but it doesn't mean I'm going to start charging match fees any higher than I think they need to be.
BTW, these comments are meant to be slagging the Brant club for the match they held...I can't comment on the quality of their matches, I simply provide the reasons why I chose not to shoot that day. One thing is for sure, their not the only club charging $25+ for match fees.
Are you buying your own material / props / steel targets etc...or does the club provide them? It can make a big difference in what you have to charge for your matches.
Well...maybe I should start charging $100 for my matches...the only requirement is that you bring a positive attitude.
I know where you're going with this...but really, I could use very believable figures to support charging $50 a match as opposed to $20....where do you draw the line?
BTW, I could also use very believable figures to support only charging $10 a match. I know how many targets and pasters get used in a match, anyhting beyond that incremental cost is all going back to the club for maintenance, hydro, steel, etc. And that portion is more than adequate, even if the match fee is only $15
Put it this way, are YOU able to justify the $25 match fee with hard numbers? Are those numbers reasonable?
This thread is now going nowhere fast... I really think if the match fee is stopping you from shooting (Difference of $5 to $10) then I think you have started sweating the small stuff. There are so many other costs involved as well as the value of your spare time. It really feels like people are just looking for something to complain about. Just be glad you have lots of matches and options to choose from....bunch of spoiled brats lol
Just get out and shoot more match's then decide which ones aren't delivering the full value for you. If your not having fun try golf, then we can compare green fees at the various courses.
Just get out and shoot more match's then decide which ones aren't delivering the full value for you. If your not having fun try golf
, then we can compare green fees at the various courses.
SVISTI1911
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- Kitchener, Ontario
The guys at Brant always do a excellent job, especially with the space limitations they have. They really don't have the luxury of space. Considering the size of the range there they couldn't do better! The stages are never repetitious which is a easy trap to fall into in a indoor range. Anyone that would complain about the quality of this match really doesn't have a clue as to what it takes to put on a quality match with the restrictions/handicaps they have at a range such as Brant.
As for the price I don't think it was bad at all. I have been to worse matches that cost much more with more rounds. Round count does not equal quality or fun. I commend them actually for keeping the price at $25, a lot of clubs have gone over the $30 mark for level II's, it would have been easy for them to just bump up the price just because the other clubs have. Regardless they didn't have a problem selling the match out, clearly the cost wasn't too high, if it was there would have been empty slots.
I think you have a problem who cares If you get lunch or not I worked the Sharon match as RO for 8hrs and bought my own lunch no problem so shut the f**k up and stop #####ing
Someone give this guy a sticker....he RO'd a match for 8 hours
SVISTI1911
CGN Regular
- Location
- Kitchener, Ontario
Someone give this guy a sticker....he RO'd a match for 8 hours
He deserves more then that. Try shooting a match without RO's.
if he can put on a match and with decent stages and at least 100 rnds and a lunch...
I'm in, when is the next match ?
Can I suggest Souvlaki and greek salad for lunch ? or we talking balogni and cheddr slice on white bread ?
overall, $20 - $30 for these smaller level 2's is o.k...and most don't probably give it 2nd thaught... it's the level 3's that can get really pricey..
ps... Brant does always put on fun and quality stages in that little range .... Thanks Brant club !!!!
There are may shooters, whether ipsc or idpa, whatever, that do take the $$$ into account before deciding to go... and that's a fact...even though someone here suggested thats not true and I'm talking out of my ass... anyone remember who that was ? Quigley any idea who that was ?
I'm in, when is the next match ?
Can I suggest Souvlaki and greek salad for lunch ?
or we talking balogni and cheddr slice on white bread ? overall, $20 - $30 for these smaller level 2's is o.k...and most don't probably give it 2nd thaught... it's the level 3's that can get really pricey..
ps... Brant does always put on fun and quality stages in that little range .... Thanks Brant club !!!!
There are may shooters, whether ipsc or idpa, whatever, that do take the $$$ into account before deciding to go... and that's a fact...even though someone here suggested thats not true and I'm talking out of my ass... anyone remember who that was ? Quigley any idea who that was ?
ro ourselves
if someone sets up the match stage, they can go home a rest after.
We can RO and score and DQ. ourselves
He deserves more then that. Try shooting a match without RO's.
if someone sets up the match stage, they can go home a rest after.
We can RO and score and DQ. ourselves
stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- S.W. Ontario
I think you have a problem who cares If you get lunch or not I worked the Sharon match as RO for 8hrs and bought my own lunch no problem so shut the f**k up and stop #####ing
in that case you got owned!!!
I am onside with Onagoth on this one. Prices for matches seem to be growing beyond a reasonable rate.
Oh and I always try to include lunch at EESA matches. Mind you with no club house we are limited in scope at this point.
Meal is the last thing I care about when I go to the matches. The provided food often doesn't work for everyone and $5..10 are not going to make a difference to me anyways.
I was simply wondering about Level II IPSC match where competitors can't see their gun, or can barely see the sights. It just doesn't make sense to me, as if it challenges the night vision abilities.
