Brantford

pokpok1964 said:
I don't know Mr. Stormbringer but he started this thread and I think it was petty to do so for the reason he did......
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Although I usually find the debates you have with the various members of this forum entertaining and typically don't care to get involved, I feel your interpretation of the reason Stormbringer started this thread is likely wrong.

Although Ontario is large, the shooting community is not and we have all run into each other at one point or another.
Seeing a letter from a member who resides in a city not far from many of us, whom we have never met or heard of makes everyone curious of who the person is.
Why have we never met them at a match?

If that letter was from someone who lives in a neighboring city to yours in Hong Kong, would you not be the least bit curious as to who the person is?

Stormbringer is a big boy and can defend himself, but I had to speak and say that your comments in this instance are unjustified.

other than a couple members who implied that some of the letters may be fake (and who really cares as long as the technical content of the magazine is sound) No one accused IPSC or Vince Pinto of anything.

As has been stated, it is likely a mistake and nothing more.


Either that or IPSC is planting spies in rural Ontario to keep tabs on us.
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Well, I have been around the game awhile and the name sure didn't ring a bell with me.
No past member by that name either.
 
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pokpok1964 said:
So why do you go there? Why not boycott the GV and make them miss out on your priceless and insightful comments? Why not invite them all to come here to see which board is more useful? Why doesn't IPSC Canada have an official board?
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Because for the moment GV is the "official" IPSC board.

I am a MEMBER of IPSC thus I have the RIGHT to post on GV

I have the RIGHT not to have my posts deleted or locked just because "some" people do not like what I have to say.

pokpok1964 said:
Going there and expecting things to be run your way is never going to work.
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I do not want things run "MY" way I want them run a PROPER way.....the current system just like the current voting system is BROKEN. When things are broken I gravitate to trying to fix them. That is how I roll.



pokpok1964 said:
No, becoz I don't care about the identity of who wrote a letter
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You should......

pokpok1964 said:
. Do you also expect them to give you evidence the other letters were actually sent by the people?
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Actually we already did that.....maybe you missed that.

pokpok1964 said:
Why don't you have the courage to raise this isue at the GV?
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There was no reason to raise the issue at GV because there was no issue. I assumed that I did not know where Brantford Canada was......since CGN has Canadian IPSC shooters from all over the country it made sense to ask here not at GV because it would seem many Canadians have taken your advice form the start of your post and boycott the place.

pokpok1964 said:
BTW, did you notice one of the mods at the GV is from Brantford, ON. Maybe you should ask him for proof of address!
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Unless they were directly involved with the publication that would be a waste of time. Checking the IPSC Ontario was all that was required to find out that there was a problem once it was established that there is only one Brantford.




pokpok1964 said:
NOW I understand. You're smarter than everybody else. Thank you for being truthful about your self assessment.
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Hey its a curse........but I have gotten used to it. Do not beat yourself up too much. We all have our crosses to bear.

Hang tough..
 
...Too bad we couldn't all redirect this energy against the anti's.

Anyway...

It's very possible that the individual is or was part of IPSC Internationally...and lives in the GTA (but doesn't belong to IPSC Ontario)

I recall a group of 5 or 6 people that were on the flight to Ecuador in 2005. Three of these individuals were in the seats in front of me so I had an opportunity to chat with them. They were clearly involved with IPSC (and they were traveling with Nick) but not shooting...and I had never met them before...

There's alot of people involved behind the scenes...
 
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I'm confused why pokpok ,as stated location is in "Hong Kong",cares what happens on a cold CANADIAN website is there no official Hong Kong ipsc site ??
 
Quigley said:
...Too bad we couldn't all redirect this energy against the anti's.
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Some days it is hard to tell what side some people are on......

Quigley said:
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Anyway...

It's very possible that the individual is or was part of IPSC Internationally...and lives in the GTA (but doesn't belong to IPSC Ontario)

I recall a group of 5 or 6 people that were on the flight to Ecuador in 2005. Three of these individuals were in the seats in front of me so I had an opportunity to chat with them. They were clearly involved with IPSC (and they were traveling with Nick) but not shooting...and I had never met them before...

There's alot of people involved behind the scenes...
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See a new theory!!

YEA!!

See what having an open and FRANK discussion can bring.

Now imagine if this thread had been locked earlier!
 
another theory, He uses a different name for his IPSC membership, or everyone knows him by his middle name. Still leaning towards it being BS
 
Anything this involved has to be Aliens.....it really is the only explanation! What was that Sherlock Holmes quote......something about when all else, no matter how implausible....something, something. I can't remember how it goes!
 
7.62mm said:
Anything this involved has to be Aliens.....it really is the only explanation! What was that Sherlock Holmes quote......something about when all else, no matter how implausible....something, something. I can't remember how it goes!
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Aliens... you mean a beam of bright light and zap the unknown shooter from Brantford is abducted :eek::eek::eek:
 
stormbringer said:
I am a MEMBER of IPSC thus I have the RIGHT to post on GV. I have the RIGHT not to have my posts deleted or locked just because "some" people do not like what I have to say.
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Where is that "right" written? Just becoz you say so, doesn't make it so. The GV rules give the mods power to edit or close threads. If you sign up, you're bound by the rules, whether you like them or not. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.


stormbringer said:
I do not want things run "MY" way I want them run a PROPER way
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Who decides which is the proper way? You??


stormbringer said:
.... it would seem many Canadians have taken your advice form the start of your post and boycott the place.
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If what I see here is typically Canadian, thank God for small mercies, but it looks like the only problem is a few people in Ontario.
 
pokpok1964 said:
Where is that "right" written? Just becoz you say so, doesn't make it so. The GV rules give the mods power to edit or close threads. If you sign up, you're bound by the rules, whether you like them or not. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions.
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Of course not....but they do not revolve around any ONE person either. That is my salient point.



pokpok1964 said:
Who decides which is the proper way? You??
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of course not............have you actually read any of my posts on GV? It should be the MEMBERSHIP. THE ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP.

That would of course take a DEMOCRATIC system which we blatently do not have. Again..........one of my points.




pokpok1964 said:
If what I see here is typically Canadian, thank God for small mercies, but it looks like the only problem is a few people in Ontario.
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Actutally that is a very good point. I was actually considering that today. Why is it Canadians that have such a problem with the GV. Oh and it is not just an Ontario phenomena but Ontario with more participants has a higher percentage by the nature of simple math.

I have a working theory on that which I was discussing with another shooter today.

You see North Americans are of a different mind set from most parts of the world. We are of the pioneer mindset etc. Austrailia shares this to a smaller extent but were influenced by the English to a larger extent.

Thus we share many of our points of view with the Americans. However there is a HUGE Difference. The Amercians have USPSA and thus do not give a rats ass as to what happens on the GV. Look at the number of IPSC matches in the USA compared to IPSC matches if you want evidence. Thus very few Americans go to GV or post there. What few do often share the opinions of us Canadians. However even then there are few. Most Americans post on Brian Enos instead. From which I understand the GV was created after some sort of falling out between some IPSC people and those at Benos.......(I have no idea of that history).

So there you have it...........it is due to the independant nature of North Americans compared to the more maleable nature of most other countries coupled with the USPSA safety valve that causes Canadians to be the most vocal critics of the current regeime at GV. If there was no USPSA it is my contention that GV would be an entirely different and IMHO open forum.
 
I won't go into details but after the fallout the led to Vince leaving BE.com the majority opinion was that we the moderators would have been happy to have Vince stay. And we thought he would return at some point.
 
Dansy said:
.....you must be member of the region in which you reside!
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hhmmm...I'm not sure it's that clear when it's IPSC vs USPSA

What you are quoting are IPSC rules (residency requirements)...

Theoretically...you could live in Canada...and belong to the USPSA (and only shoot USPSA matches)...but you wouldn't be able to shoot IPSC matches (any where)

What confuses most people is...that USPSA members that reside in the US do qualify to shoot IPSC matches.

Maybe Sean could pipe in and confirm (that a Canadian resident who does not want to shoot IPSC can join the USPSA and only shoot USPSA matches)?
 
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