Brazilian Mauser question.

Calum

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I came across some Brazilian Mauser's the other day in a store I visit, and noticed the star of David logo in the wood of the butstock. :confused:

So whats the story on these?
From Germany to Israel to Brazil?

I thought the British gave Israel had Enfields back in the 50's. :confused:
 
It is the Star of David cut in the buttstock, I've seen pictures of it too.

I'm not sure how it happened...

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Cheers!
 
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It was the mark of the arsenal (Ludwig Loewe, IIRC). The family that owned it was Jewish and the rifles they built bore the Star of David on their buttstock. This was, of course, before the Nazi's came to power.

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From Wikipedia:
Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken (German Weapons and Munitions Works), known as DWM, was an arms company in Imperial Germany created when Ludwig Loewe & Company merged with several other companies. This included Waffenfabrik Mauser and Deutsche Metallpatronenfabrik Lorenz. This was orchestrated by Isidor Loewe, as his brother Ludwig had died in 1886.

DWM introduced the Pistol Parabellum ('Luger Pistol') in the late 1890s. It was worked on by Georg Luger and Hugo Borchardt. DWM manufactured the Maschinengewehr 01 and Maschinengewehr 08, licenced version/clone of the Maxim machine gun. The MG08 would be the main German heavy machine gun of the First World War. Along with being one of the main arms suppliers of Imperial Germany, the company was at the forefront of small arms technology. They also supplied the non-German world (mostly Latin America) with the Mauser rifle system becoming one of the worlds largest arms manufacturers. Due the fact that the Mauser rifle was one of Germany's main exports before the first world war they proved to be an important part of the pre-war economy. Many of their weapons were still used by German troops up through the Second World War.

The original Ludwig Loewe & Company was also still active at this point as part of a group with DWM - Karl Maybach (who was part of the Maybach company) was employed by the company in 1901.
 
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The Nazis didn't have SoD's on their guns. Only WW1 era south American contract mausers had it as I recall. The imperial era Gew98's had a different military mandated script mark there in place of the SoD.
 
I notice the brass disks are blank...did they ever get used in the same manner as the Swedish Mauser? ie...for recording barrel condition etc.
 
The disc isn;t brass - it's strawed steel with a heat-blued keeper screw. I've never seen one that was marked except for a greek letter which is a manufacturing inspection mark, usually and alpha or beta.

These marking disks were standard on all large ring 98 export mausers and some countries used them for unit markings, others did not. I've not seen a brazillian that was unit marked, but they may be out there.

DWM Berlin is the star of david, Mauser Oberndorf is the sripted letter. DWM Oberndorf doesn't/didn't exist. DWM let out contract overflow to Mauser at Oberndorf to fill out the contract.
 
Calum said:
Wow great info...Hmmm I might need another rifle, and of course reloading dies. :D

One always "needs" another rifle... :p You will find the 7x57mm to be an amazing ctg. Mate that with a Mauser rifle & you can call it heaven! ;)

'Course it's a little departure from the SKS... but in a good way... :cool: :rockOn:
 
Calum I agree with Chupac about the two different Model 1908 markings.

To be more accurate, rifles for brazil were built at 2 factories - DWM berlin and DWM oberndorf. One factory used the star with a B in the center and the other factory used something like a flag with a B in the center. I forget which one was which - have to look at the rifles again.


I have both of the 1908's and one model is made by DEUTSCHE WAFFEN-UND MUNITICNSFABRIKEN OBERNDORFa.N. has the flag with a diamond <> with a B in the middle.

Tha 1908 manufactured by DEUTSCHE WAFFEN-UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN OBERNDORFa.N has the proof of a star with the "B" in the middle.

I have two of each model, and one is for sale. I had to check and see if I was selling the only one of the flag marked 1908's I have. I don't really think it is the Star of David but a Brezilian proof.
I am looking for a model 1922, a short 1908, and other Brazilian models.

Albayo
 
Calum, so where are these cool Mausers located;) I may have to get one too.. Don't worry I will wait until you pick yours out first....:wave:
 
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