Breaking in a new barrel

guntech said:
Fantastic video?

Humorous maybe - if you have no respect for firearms.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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That's for sure.

Not many people would be willing to toss around their Kimber.....I guess this guy looks at it as a tool that will get scuffed and dinged with use and he trusts his optics and rifle to take a few knocks without breaking.

I think he probably respects the utility of his rifle more then the ascetics.

I'm glad you are mildly offended by his actions Dennis because I'd rather deal with a gunsmith that takes care in handling my firearm! I've seen gunsmiths toss my rifle on their metal topped bench right in front of me.....:confused:
 
guntech said:
Humorous maybe - if you have no respect for firearms.
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Wow panties too tight? :p

I've had a couple of my guns take a tumble due to me slipping down an embankment or falling in the river while crossing. Hell my grandfather's .308 Norma Magnum Parker Hale went to the bottom of the lake when he accidentally tipped the canoe.

Firearms are tools. Tools are meant to be used and sooner or later they will get roughed up.

I think of it the same as my car. I was so relieved when my car got it's first paint chip because then I could stop worrying about getting one.
 
The fantastic part of this light hearted video is the exceptional shooting skill exhibited within. And even after mishandling and abusing a perfectly good tool to boot. Perhaps it outlines that its 90% shooter and 10% tools when it comes down to a rock ridden mountain top and a few tumbles across the scree to get a shot. Ive got a few well earned scratches there.

Now, if he was beating on the rifles crown with a rock (and he was not with the well taped end of the barrel) then that would be just plain wreckless!

Barrel break in is the issue. So on that point there will always be varying camps on the subject. IMHO, if you let the barrel tell you what it needs in relation to what you need then you can choose to do the rest. Some times your barrel can be ready in only a couple shots, so why risk some "method" for an opportunity to damage it. Be sure to use a bore guide and good tools to reduce the risk. Ultimately, it is your call....
 
drache said:
Firearms are tools. Tools are meant to be used and sooner or later they will get roughed up.
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There is a big difference in using a tool and deliberately abusing a tool.

Do you have own any scoped rifles you would throw on the gravel and dirt a few times just to show off?

There is no way I would deliberately do that with any of mine.

And anyone can make a video show what ever results they want to show...
 
guntech said:
There is a big difference in using a tool and deliberately abusing a tool.

Do you have own any scoped rifles you would throw on the gravel and dirt a few times just to show off?
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What is the difference between a gun getting scratches from an accident or deliberately?

I haven't done it to a rifle but I have abused many things to their breaking points so I know where that point is just in case. Including optics.
 
The video was posted for to inject a little humour in what can be a rather serious debate about breaking in barrels....

Accidents happen.
Deliberate damage or abuse is an individuals choice.

This guy obviously sees his guns as tools and his indifference to cosmetic damage is hard for others with different views to comprehend.

I don't go out of my way to damage anything, but I agree that many items are more relaxing to use when they have a few "character" marks.

I've got work clothes that never seem to get dirty but then I try and do a job with a nice pair of pants on and bam covered in paint or oil!

Used guns are nice that way as they come ready to roll complete with scratches, worn bluing and dents in the wood.
 
drache said:
What is the difference between a gun getting scratches from an accident or deliberately?

I haven't done it to a rifle but I have abused many things to their breaking points so I know where that point is just in case. Including optics.
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Well throw your #### around, that's your business... post the video...
 
guntech said:
Well throw your s**t around, that's your business... post the video...
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I've posted my reviews on some things like optics and the abuse they can take and still work. Feel free to search this site for them.

Three reviews that I didn't do but changed my mind on things were because of someone abusing their equipment. First was a glock that a guy dragged behind his truck on the road, threw it out of an airplane, then buried it in mud/oil, and still showed it working. The other was two reviews on Vortex Strikefire RDS that they abused by doing everything from purposely dropping it to leaving it in the snow/freezer, among many other things.

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I just remembered another review. The destruction test on those Glock knives. Now that really opened my eyes on what those knives can be put through.
 
drache said:
Wow panties too tight? :p

I've had a couple of my guns take a tumble due to me slipping down an embankment or falling in the river while crossing. Hell my grandfather's .308 Norma Magnum Parker Hale went to the bottom of the lake when he accidentally tipped the canoe.

Firearms are tools. Tools are meant to be used and sooner or later they will get roughed up.

I think of it the same as my car. I was so relieved when my car got it's first paint chip because then I could stop worrying about getting one.
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well said!
 
guntech said:
JB Bore Cleaning Paste does not lap steel... it removes fouling.

If you want to test the lapping ability of JB Bore Cleaning Paste, put some on a patch and start rubbing on a piece of steel ... after an hour can you see any difference?
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It's true the JB bore paste is to clean the bore to pristine status and not to lap the metal, it's too fine for that, my empirical observation is that I get a bit less fouling from a new barrel after the first shooting if I use the paste than when I don't. It may be that the paste "conditions" the metal so that less copper fouling clings to it, but as I said, it's an empirical observation.
 
i like the one shot clean for 5-10 rounds then see what the barrel is telling me, then i might shoot 3 shot groups or even 5 shot groups if there is no sign of copper! i am in the process right now with a virgin krieger barrel!!
 
I have broken in a number of new match barrels and there is a significant reduction in copper removed from 1st to 5th shot with the shoot 1 and clean method.

Have shot my best ever group at 100m while doing barrel break in. So those of you who prescribe that it is wasting barrel life can just suck it. LOL. :D. ;)
 
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