Breda ~what do I have here~

Strictly a guess here but I'd say it's a choke tube wrench for the external choke tubes that some Breda shotguns had or possibly a thread cleaner for same. The tubes had two notches for the wrench to engage and I don't see them on the wrench but maybe from a different angle?
 
Thanks for the input fellas

No notches :(

The wrench is aluminum with a steel insert. The insert is tapered about two-thirds of the way with fine groves ??


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From Breda

From: Info BREDA
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 3:21 AM
To: JPC
Subject: Re: Information Please

Good morning,
this is a very old tool used to “re-balance” the profile of 12gauge shells.
Hunters were used to reload by themselves ammo and, after the process, the profile of the shell may be not straight. This tool needs to make it straight again after the reloading process.

PLease consider that many shotshells in Europe were made in carton-paper too… this is why this tool was important.


Best Regards
MicheleM | Customer Service
Info@bredafucili.com
 
I know almost nothing about Breda so I did a google search and found pics of some over and under shotguns for sale. One model has a greener style cross bolt and resembles nothing else that I'm familiar with but another model looks uncannily like a Beretta 686 receiver. Was the Greener x bolt gun a Breda design and was the other a 686 copy re-branded?
On another note, the o/u guns are not listed on their website so presumably they are out of production but the semi auto shotguns look similar to some Benelli designs. I'm not a big believer in coincidence.
 
Breda was interesting in that it was a company way ahead of the times. They didnt start off by making guns, they were actually a mechanical manufacturing company making machinery, including planes, locomotives and military products. Today, Breda’s firearm division manufactures inertia action guns, but they are vastly different then their semi’s of the past. Their original semi auto used the long recoil action similar to the Browning Auto 5 so their newer product line definitely came after Benelli’s ID system. They also used to manufacture O/U and SxS, but no longer do so. The Breda arms division also manufactured components such as barrels for other manufactures. I do not belive the Beretta O/U was copied from Breda. The gun manufacturing in Italy was focused in a small area in Breacia. Its not uncommon to see similarities between different manufacturers, but many of the designs were quite different.
 
Breda also made some very nice garands for military contracts after WW2 I had one that had been (an arsenal refurb when I got it) originally made for the Danish forces in the late 1950's I think it was stock and action number 4109 of a 9000 piece run . I bought it from Lever arms for 200 bucks with a bayonet and about 30 clips at a buck each. And sold it when Garands hit about 800 and I have missed it ever since .
 
1963beretta said:
Breda was interesting in that it was a company way ahead of the times. They didnt start off by making guns, they were actually a mechanical manufacturing company making machinery, including planes, locomotives and military products. Today, Breda’s firearm division manufactures inertia action guns, but they are vastly different then their semi’s of the past. Their original semi auto used the long recoil action similar to the Browning Auto 5 so their newer product line definitely came after Benelli’s ID system. They also used to manufacture O/U and SxS, but no longer do so. The Breda arms division also manufactured components such as barrels for other manufactures. I do not belive the Beretta O/U was copied from Breda. The gun manufacturing in Italy was focused in a small area in Breacia. Its not uncommon to see similarities between different manufacturers, but many of the designs were quite different.
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While I agree with all of what you say, I also know that the gun makers in the Brescia Valley have been known to sell or trade parts, pieces, barrels, receivers, technology, etc among themselves, or market the product under different names. It seems that Beretta does less of this than some other companies but the gun makers there are a tight knit group where everyone knows everyone and deals are made.
The 686 is a gun that I'm very familiar with and I can confidently say that the pics of one of the Breda's I saw was identical to the Beretta design at least on the outside while pics of another Breda had the same 686 look but with some milling differences on the side of the receiver. I would be easily convinced that the greener x bolt style o/u I saw was a Breda design but in regards to the one that looks like a 686, not so much. Like I said before, I'm not a big believer in coincidence.


I hope it's ok to post these links to the guntraderuk website where I found these guns, I'll gladly delete them if not.
This is the one that looks like a 686 to me with the exception of the trigger which is more the style used o FAIR's and a few others.

https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/breda/over-under/12-gauge/190330181717001

This one looks like a 686 but with slightly different milling on the outside of the receiver, namely a line sweeping downward from the rear to the bottom of the receiver side.

https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/breda/over-under/12-gauge/181117113742011
 
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