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rugbydave said:
At that point you could probably get IBI to turn down a 20" barrel and drill the gas port at the carbine length to take the factory piston. I'm sure you could get spare parts for the gas system from Brigade if you wanted to have spares on hand. Just makes more sense to modify a barrel to work with the factory gas system vs trying to make an aftermarket part fit.
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It is best to see what the stock gun can do first, before going full on with expensive and time consuming idea and modifications. if this is a 3MOA gun out of the box, it makes you wonder if it is worth shelling out money to make it a 2MOA gun.
 
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greentips said:
The handguard is not a big deal but that metal skeleton stock from the 70’s fnc fal para era needs to go, it is not even a faithful copy of the fn para stock. Like can they ship it without the stock or something else? Let’s forget this whole FAL marketing thing this is not even remotely close to a FAL under the hood, so let’s make things more functional and practical.
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The stock is attached via 1913 rail so any compatible stock would work

CobraGT said:
Don't know if this has been asked/addressed anywhere yet - are we going to be able to get 7.62x39 bolts and barrels to caliber-swap these things if we want to? Barrel looks easy enough to change out, and aside from that and the bolt - and maybe the recoil springs? - it doesn't appear that anything else would be needed to swap calibers.
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From what I have read it takes standard AR15 barrels and bolts. There are also 7.62x39mm versions out there, the MK-47




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greentips said:
It is best to see what the stock gun can do first, before going full on with expensive and time consuming idea and modifications. if this is a 3MOA gun out of the box, it makes you wonder if it is worth shelling out money to make it a 2MOA gun.
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No arguments from me. I'd be willing to bet it shoots to the same level of precision as a typical decent AR and there'd be no issues getting 2moa with match ammo which is totally fine for my uses. In the unlikely case that these are around for an extended period of time without getting banned one could always start investigating re-barrelling a 2nd upper for a precision build or pushing the manufacturer to do a precision upper. As it stands, I'll just be amazed if we get more than a couple months of use before they get banned, haha.
 
Horilka said:
I'm sure you just want to believe it is so. However that is not what US owners report. Will see if it changes for us.
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Fair enough, I wasn't aware that sourcing spares was tough. Probably still easier to have someone reproduce the factory parts than go down the rabbit hole of trying to make parts designed for one rifle work in a different one.
 
greentips said:
It is best to see what the stock gun can do first, before going full on with expensive and time consuming idea and modifications. if this is a 3MOA gun out of the box, it makes you wonder if it is worth shelling out money to make it a 2MOA gun.
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My stock 2008 Stag4R would put 10 69gr hand loads into 1.125" and metal box 62gr FMJ into 2"ish
My IBI barreled Renegade is putting 73gr hand loads into .625" and 55 and 62 fMJ is worse than 3", it is bad.

I am also curious what these guns can be made to do just through proper feeding.

I never got to squeeze my SA20 for accuracy. I wonder what C7s were actually capable of.
 
Gunnerlove said:
My stock 2008 Stag4R would put 10 69gr hand loads into 1.125" and metal box 62gr FMJ into 2"ish
My IBI barreled Renegade is putting 73gr hand loads into .625" and 55 and 62 fMJ is worse than 3", it is bad.

I am also curious what these guns can be made to do just through proper feeding.

I never got to squeeze my SA20 for accuracy. I wonder what C7s were actually capable of.
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Over the years I've found that a quality AR will tend to put 10 rnds of match ammo that it likes (be it 68/69 or 75/77gr) into just over 1moa on the low side to just under 2 moa on the high side with the average being around 1.5 moa which honestly is plenty good for any application of .223 imo. Keeps you inside a 12" wide target at 600yds so fine for my applications.

It is weird when a barrel will group well with match ammo but terrible with bulk stuff. Just ran into that testing a Backlands Hunter, shot 10rds of 75s into 1.05 moa but 55gr factory and handloads were well over 4moa. Go figure
 
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