bringing a sibling to "watch" me hunt

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well my brother is trying to decide if he wants to go get his hunter safety course or not

he wants to come out and see what its all about
I was thinking about just bringing him for some grouse hunting
If I brought him along just to observe, I would be the only one with a firearm/hunting licence would this be legal? or does he have to have a hunting licence to be able to come observe as well

im located in ontario if that helps at all

Mike
 
I don't see an issue with it. Make sure you carry all the birds ect. People take their kids hunting just to observe all the time. I've taken a girl who wanted to see what it's all about out.
 
Hang a camera on his neck and he should be good to go. Make him aware about his place during the hunt and make sure he does not step in front of you.
 
Why not! How else do you learn about habitat/tactics/& love of the game? You can only read so many How-Tos & F&S lit.

I'm sure there are those that just decide one day to head off into the bush by themselves & do fine ..... but it sure is a heck of alot safer & more confidence building to be initiated with proper hunting protocol by a family member or close friend tutor.

Incidentally, just having to ask a question like that indicates to me that things have become so regulated (from when I first started out) that the future of this sport is indeed in serious jeopardy. I've heard that the average age of a hunter in Canada is in the early 50s presently.

So, yes by all means, do anything you can to perpetuate the sport!
 
He's good to go. He just can't participate in the hunt - e.g. drive or spot game for you

That can't be right. Anybody is allowed to drive around and spot game at any time, as long as they aren't carrying a rifle (or bow etc). It shouldn't be any different for someone who is accompanying a hunter. If they don't have a license they can't have a firearm in the woods or be in posession of a harvested game animal, but as far as I know they can still do everything else. At least this is true where I am from (as far as I know, but I'd have to look into it to be absolutely sure).

If that is actually a law where you live its possibly the most ridiculous and useless one I've ever heard of.
 
That can't be right. Anybody is allowed to drive around and spot game at any time, as long as they aren't carrying a rifle (or bow etc). It shouldn't be any different for someone who is accompanying a hunter. If they don't have a license they can't have a firearm in the woods or be in posession of a harvested game animal, but as far as I know they can still do everything else. At least this is true where I am from (as far as I know, but I'd have to look into it to be absolutely sure).

If that is actually a law where you live its possibly the most ridiculous and useless one I've ever heard of.

You can't "dog" animals, spot them for a hunter or make them fly up for him to shoot without your hunting license.

From MNR WEBSITE
Question Re: Non-hunter Vs Hunter and Licence Requirements
I am 20 years old and from a family of non-hunters, but I enjoy hunting of all kinds. I don't have many other people to go out deer hunting with, and since it is dangerous to go alone my dad often comes with me for company. He doesn't have a hunting licence, but he enjoys being with me, and dresses in orange just to be safe. We were told that is illegal for him to do this and he can be charged with illegal hunting even if he isn't carrying a gun? How can this be? Aren't crown lands open for everyone to use, not just hunters during hunting season? How can he be charged for simply walking around in the bush with me?

Answer:
This practice is absolutely legal if the non-hunter does not actively participate in the hunt. Let me give you a couple of scenarios to explain this:
in our hunt camp we have a member who is a non-hunter. On occasion, he goes out with one of the 'doggers', walking alongside him and taking photographs. This is perfectly legal as he is not an integral part of the chase. Equally legitimate, he sometimes sits on a watch with another hunter (only one gun) and takes photos, visits, etc.
in the same scenario, if the non-hunter decided that he wanted to walk by himself in the same general area and thus function as an additional 'dogger', then that would mean he is now meeting the definition of "hunt" and would need a licence.

Clearly, anyone can simply walk around on crown (or private, with permission) land but once there is any indication that they are actively involved in 'chasing, pursuing, in search of,.' then they are liable to the requirement for a hunting licence and may be charged if they do not have one - whether or not they have a firearm!

See link.

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Enforcement/2ColumnSubPage/198399.html
 
Okay, that seems reasonable, but surely that wouldn't inlcude driving the vehicle or carrying a set of binoculars on them.

I think he meant driving the game - moving through the bush to 'push' them towards waiting hunters.

The binoculars would be fine as long as they didn't use them to find game for you to shoot.

I took my wife along for grouse on Monday. I just told her not to point out any birds to me.

The non-licensed person can help dress the game though. Grouse look funny in tuxedos:D
 
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well my brother is trying to decide if he wants to go get his hunter safety course or not

he wants to come out and see what its all about
I was thinking about just bringing him for some grouse hunting
If I brought him along just to observe, I would be the only one with a firearm/hunting licence would this be legal? or does he have to have a hunting licence to be able to come observe as well

im located in ontario if that helps at all

Mike

Good for you to help introduce family and friends to hunting. Its a great sport and bonds people.:cheers:
 
Hmmm, funny. I asked this a few weeks ago to several buddies and the only answer I got was "DON'T! YOU WILL BE CHARGED!" But after reading the MNR response, Imma gonna take my wife out as much as I am able. She likes looking at pretty animals, and I like shooting at and eating them! :D (She enjoys the meat too, FYI)
 
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