British constabulary revolver

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Hi all I bought this revolver chambered for .450 ( Adams i assume)

I was told it was approx. 1890-1895 manufacture.

Made by trulock and Harris Can anyone give me more info on this gun. Would be really appreciated.

By the way where could I get ammo? Is this gun basically the royal Irish constabulary revolver?

Thanks
 
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Rims may or may not be too thick with cut down 45 Colt cases. First try loading a .455 Webley round to see if that fits or not. My 450 adams revolver fits it nicely. Much easier than cutting down 45 Colt. Finding shootable 450 is getting harder and harder all the time. Fiocchi (italy) may still make it but don't seem to make it available to the western market anymore for some reason.
 
It is similar to a Webley RIC, although he lockwork might be a bit different. The revolver is Belgian made; presumably for retail by the British maker. Any British proof marks at all? Do you think that is original condition, or has it been refurbished?
 
I'm guessing the Irish firm merely had them stamped,not unlike Sears branded guns. Sears didn't make them, eh.
Notice the printing on the top strap is a much different font and size. It's a Belgian revolver,with or without the ELG stamp.
Good enough revolver BTW.
 
I agree that is a beautiful pistol. The Belgian stamp E over LG in the oval dates that pistol before 1897 when I believe the stamp was discontinued.

I will point out to you the dents on the web of the cylinder. Those are from hard contact with the firing pin. It's either not in time and the rotation hand needs to be worked over or as in some of these knock offs the cylinder can be rotated in the hammer down position. In your photos, with the hammer down the cylinder lock bar isn't visible. To me this indicates the cylinder can be rotated when the hammer is down.

I may be wrong but the finish on the butt grip is quite worn in contrast to the rest of the pistol. Also there is a pattern on the surface of the frame that looks like a fine wire wheel was used to clean it up. The straw color bone char finish is way to good and the stamps on the frame have rounded edges. I have to agree with tiriaq that the pistol has been refurbished.

As posted above, there isn't much wrong with Belgian steel. I think the 455 Webly on the short case will work in that pistol. Don't take my word for it though. In those days tolerances were often very generous. Find a 455 Webly short case cartridge and see if it fits. BE CAREFUL.
 
Yes I'm sure it has been refinished in the past but I'm fine with that. It looks great.
If I were to reload for it and I wanted to use a light smokeless load,does anyone have any suggestions?
.455 webley shells fit it in, so I could pull the bullets and replace the powder.
Thanks
 
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Another question what does the M* stand for. I tried attaching the cylinder photo, if it doesn't work the photo is on pg 1. Thanks
 
It looks to be a Belgian copy of a Webley RIC, built for Trulock and Harris. Many British gunmakers sold rebadged Belgian pistols in that era.

Looks like one of the higher quality pieces, some of the Belgian Webley copies were pretty rough. You should check the bore and cylinder diameter. Some of the Belgian copies had oversize and undersize bore and cylinders. IF the chamber is actually cut to 450 dimensions then a 455 MKII cartridge should not fit, but given all the variations and lack of standardisation in the late 1800s, anything is possible.
 
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