Brits to get a little bit of Austria ;) C'mon Canada

Glocks make more sense if you're trying to fill holsters for cheaper and are limited to the amount of training you give or receive.

But I notice that a lot of more "elite" forces use Sigs - I own two Sigs and I think that they're great guns. Extremely reliable, durable, etc. But I don't really know why they would be better for military use than Glock. The Glock is as reliable, it's simpler to operate and has fewer parts.

So why Sig then? I don't know the answer, but I hope somebody can fill me in. It seems when the budget allows, they are quite in-demand pistols. But they're more expensive (more money to machine an aluminum alloy or steel frame over polymer) have more parts, etc.

Somebody fill me in.
 
mr00jimbo said:
Glocks make more sense if you're trying to fill holsters for cheaper and are limited to the amount of training you give or receive.

But I notice that a lot of more "elite" forces use Sigs - I own two Sigs and I think that they're great guns. Extremely reliable, durable, etc. But I don't really know why they would be better for military use than Glock. The Glock is as reliable, it's simpler to operate and has fewer parts.



So why Sig then? I don't know the answer, but I hope somebody can fill me in. It seems when the budget allows, they are quite in-demand pistols. But they're more expensive (more money to machine an aluminum alloy or steel frame over polymer) have more parts, etc.

Somebody fill me in.
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are you left handed?
 
RCloud said:
Learn to shoot off-handed.
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why don't you? :)

Pistol shooting was never a priority in the forces when I was in - no I was not in an elite 'key company' or anything like that - we got more range time with the C1 smg - only ever fired a CF Browning once - a few magazines at an old juice can from 10 yards and that was it. Not really much to it.
 
Sinasta said:
I'm just gonna sit here and heckle while I wait for people who own Norcs and other brands of pistol and have them say the CF should select whatever pistol they personally own because it's the best.
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heheheh.

I wish I could say that owner kool-aid never enters into a discussion, but we all know it does.
 
Being in the army or being a cop by NO means makes you a crack shot or a pistol expert...they practice very little, especially with side arms. A side arm is something that is used as a "last chance" when your primary weapon has ran out, broken or has been dropped. So for those reasons you are gonna be carrying a side arm and not using it 99% of the time so you'd want something light weight as not to be a burden as well as something that is super SIMPLE and FAST to use IF the chance occurs you need it...no safety, no grip safety, no DA first shot, no accidental de-####, ect. to worry about...just point and shoot.

So overall compared to the Browning HP a Glock is...

- Lighter weight
- Simpler to use
- Simpler to take down and easier to clean
- Has less overall parts
- More durable
- Holds more rounds
- Has a standard accessories rail which makes use of a pistol with a light MUCH more easier
- Cheaper to buy...I think?

I personally am not a Glock guy but it seems like this is a win/win for them. I AM an HK guy as I prefer a DA/SA pistol but I also practice weekly and shoot 1000s of rounds a year.
 
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the brit HP have the upgraded safety. I love Sigs, but buying for an army, I would go Glock, likely the bulk price will be half that of the Sig. If I was going Sig, it would be the 2022, cheaper than the 226 and no issues with the anodizing being worn off by over zealous cleaning.
 
This is a good thing for the CF. Imagine in a few years we will be able to save big money by getting used ones from the brits!

As for the pistol itself, I think they made a good choice. But then just about anything to meet spec from a major manufacturer would have been just fine.
 
^I think the Browning is very nice for a legacy design - really small for a pistol with 13 rounds on tap, and recoil is negligible. The Glock is very user friendly, I would be happy to carry one if it was part of my job description.

I think though that as most soldiers are probably in their twenties, they would be much more familiar with the Glock through media. Between the Browning and the Glock I think the Glock is more shootable and probably a bit more accurate, given a newb shooter, maybe a bit more reliable.
 
I have an all stainless P226 with srt and the new grips and I'd still take my Gen 3 G17 over it in a fight or competition hands down.
The fact it is quite a bit cheaper, lighter and more fool-proof is just icing on the cake.
All you Glock haters must really get bent out of shape when you get spanked with them eh?

While I will always hold a fondness in my heart for my old Inglis HP, they have had their day.
 
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