BRNO Model 21H?

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Hey CGNers,

A relative asked me to look at this rifle and determine what it's worth. The father no longer hunts due to age/mobility issues, so he's thinking of selling some of his rifles.

I believe this is a Model 21H ("H" because it has the single trigger?) made in 1950. It's chambered in 7x57 Mauser and has a vintage Unertl 4x scope on it.

Overall it's in really good condition...the stock has some honest hunting wear, but the metal finish and bore are very nice.

What's she worth? I know these are great, well made rifles...maybe I should buy it?

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Yup, buy it.
H........stand for half stock verses the F..........meaning full stock.
That is a nice all original rifle.
Looks like even the butt pad is original?
 
kamlooky said:
Yup, buy it.
H........stand for half stock verses the F..........meaning full stock.
That is a nice all original rifle.
Looks like even the butt pad is original?
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Yes, it's all original...any idea what it's worth? According to my research it's anywhere between 800 - 1200, but I'm not sure if that's "market value".
 
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Single triggers were not original. Check to see if there are 2 parallel "slots" in the bottom metal where 2 triggers used to be. Along with the little screw hole in beteeen the 2 slots where the adjustment screw would be. Perhaps the bottom metal has been changed out and the single trigger put in. Nothing wrong with that. North Americans are not partial to double set triggers.

Check to see if there are any holes drilled for scope bases - that is a headache for some.

I also see that it is a late build 21 as it has the ZG47 safety. Kind of a cross over, use up the parts as the model changed, sort of rifle. Again, nothing wrong with that - I have seen more than a few like this.

Other than that, 750-1100$ depending how much you want it.
 
There were a couple of models actually; 21H/21F, 22H/22F as per said before the 21 and 22 refer to barrel lenghts 600mm or 520mm and the "H" refers to half stock while the "F" refers to full stock.

The ZG47 safety shows that it's a late model, when the ZG47 production was already started.

There was an option for a single set trigger, but it's rarely seen in N-A.
 
Baribal said:
There were a couple of models actually; 21H/21F, 22H/22F as per said before the 21 and 22 refer to barrel lenghts 600mm or 520mm and the "H" refers to half stock while the "F" refers to full stock.

The ZG47 safety shows that it's a late model, when the ZG47 production was already started.

There was an option for a single set trigger, but it's rarely seen in N-A.
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Thank you

In which years were the 21/22's made?
 
The production of the 21 series, at least, started about '37 ended up in '40 and resumed mid to late '46 to 1950. About 46 000 rifles were made.
There was variations before they set on the integral scope mount, very late '46 or early '47... some of the early are found with round bolt handles but most are found with the spoon handle.

Calibers included;

6.5X57
7X57
7X64
8X57
8X60S
9X57 and there are some in 9.3X62 in Europe, but seems to be rebarreld or rebored...

About '48-'49 the Galas design (Otakar Galas, the designer of the ZG47) was put into production, and was available somewhere in '49.
 
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Nothing like an old Brno 21/22 for quick handling and accurate shooting, your rings I believe may very well be a Parker-Hale conversion, the rifle in my first pic came with similar bases but no rings, so I used the hard to find one piece Brno base that came off of my ZG-47 (second pic) and it ended up with new Warne rings. Both rifles were in 7 x 64 and were very accurate, the 21 had a single trigger, the 47 had 2 triggers, I found the ZG-47 to be very heavy for the caliber, and did not handle anywhere as smoothly or as quickly as the 21H. I sold them both several years ago and really miss the 21, I ended up with a large collection of Coopers and recently a Sauer Stutzen (which is for sale on the EE) if I still had the 21 it would be my first pick to hunt with, the rest would be "Safe Queens".


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I would say that rifle / scope is worth a fair market value of $1200 or even a bit more. For me the desirable features are the ZG47 style safety, a superior design than the original M21 safety which does not lock the bolt. And the single trigger, if original, is better to hunt with than DST. Scope and mounts are not always easy to find that fit these rifles, especially if the bolt is original and unaltered. I have three, two M21H's and a 22F and I would be very tempted to buy that one if it came my way.

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Baribal said:
Calibers included;

6.5X57
7X57
7X64
8X57
8X60S
9X57 and there are some in 9.3X62 in Europe...

About '48-'49 the Galas design (Otakar Galas, the designer of the ZG47) was put into production, and was available somewhere in '49.
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I never realized that they were ever made in 9x57! A 22H 9x57 would be a very welcome addition to my modest collection! I am currently fooling around with a small ring mauser German guild gun in 9x57. Pure fun. Like a .358 winchester but with way more "cool factor" & panache.
 
The problem is to find other calibers than our usual chamberings of 8X57 and 7X57... and some lucky guys ssems to find all the few 7X64 .... unless shoping in europe, it's most likely not easy... Also, I have no datas for chambering period... some may have only been in the early versions...

BTW, your "F" seems to be a "21" :)

As for scope bases and mounts, check out TEC as they have a supply of bases that match the 21/22, ZG and ZKK platforms.
 
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