Brownells Retro Rifles

Travis Bickle said:
You essentially just described the NEA102 then to the letter. If that is the case they will either have to NR the Retro AR10 or swallow their foot and restrict the NEA102.
I just sold off about 4 of my all time favorites and some ammo to make sure I have the funds in place...now we wait.
Wolverine, based on USA MSRP of about $1600 can you give even a rough estimate of the potential CAD you plan to put on it if it receives NR satus?
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You will be waiting for 2+ years for a FRT.
 
Rebel Rouser said:
You will be waiting for 2+ years for a FRT.
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I don't know.
Noone knows. Look at the WK180C.
They essentially are pushing it as a direct copy/piggy back of an already existing FRT (180b).
I'm thinking from my limited knowledge that Wolverine may be able to do the same and submit it under the same FRT as both the NEA102/semi auto Dutch AR10's already in place.
From all the technical info I've seen that is exactly what they are (well more the NEA102 but you get the idea). Proprietary upper/lower based on the original AR10 which predates the AR15 and does not interchange upper/lower with any modern, post AR15 AR10 rifle.
 
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Travis Bickle said:
I don't know.
Noone knows. Look at the WK180C.
They essentially are pushing it as a direct copy/piggy back of an already existing FRT (180b).
I'm thinking from my limited knowledge that Wolverine may be able to do the same and submit it under the same FRT as both the NEA102/semi auto Dutch AR10's already in place.
From all the technical info I've seen that is exactly what they are (well more the NEA102 but you get the idea). Proprietary upper/lower based on the original AR10 which predates the AR15 and does not interchange upper/lower with any modern, post AR15 AR10 rifle.
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I think your right. The more research I do into this, the more I think it will be NR.
 

Here John, I did post this in the Black Rifle section.

13:45 in the bottom video talks about the proprietary upper an lower.
 
The last rifle I did a pre Order for was the CZ858. But I think if this Ends up being a go I will be forsure In. Just a Beautiful rifle also one I’ve Always wanted. Very interested to see how this goes. But if any one can make this happen it will be Wolverine.
 
ZDC said:
The last rifle I did a pre Order for was the CZ858. But I think if this Ends up being a go I will be forsure In. Just a Beautiful rifle also one I’ve Always wanted. Very interested to see how this goes. But if any one can make this happen it will be Wolverine.
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Same.
Always swore I would never fall for the pre-order beta tester trap shenanigans.
But for these NR I will throw my cash down as fast as possible.
Remember these aren't some dodgey Canadian made/Chinese sourced/Barely developed product.
These are made by competent US machine shops/manufacturers funded by Brownells with their reputation on the line in the saturated US market where reputation is everything and you rarely get a second chance from the US consumers.
I'm still not seeing/hearing anywhere that these are 100 confirmed WILL NOT be compatible with DPMS pattern upper/lower though.
#### I wish I knew this Q and A was on when it was. That's the only question I would have asked lol
 
I would love to see these come in as NR, best of luck in that regard Mr Wolverine.

If these come in as NR, maybe you could work with Brownells to provide a version with a pic rail down the road? As much as I'd love a NR AR10, the ability to mount optics (conveniently) is a must for me.
 
DaveMachine said:
I would love to see these come in as NR, best of luck in that regard Mr Wolverine.

If these come in as NR, maybe you could work with Brownells to provide a version with a pic rail down the road? As much as I'd love a NR AR10, the ability to mount optics (conveniently) is a must for me.
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You have to remember these are coming from the US where "NR" AR10 variants can be had for fractions of what they cost up here with flat top railed uppers all day long. What you are looking for already exists in the USA in spades in modern AR10 format (restricted to us sadly).
The whole point of Brownells starting up this retro run is to fill a really cool gap in the US market for retro unobtanium config rifles.
These just might happen to be NR by chance because they MAY have stuck to proprietary upper/lower receiver specs of the original (I still have to say MAY because I have not seen it in black and white clear as day stating this anywhere yet)

To make one with a railed upper would make no sense whatsoever for their market and this project. It would defeat the whole purpose and sell none in the US.
Unless they would consider changing up their whole production/business plan to cater to our sad little market up here maybe.

We don't even know for sure yet if they will be NR. I am waiting for a definitive answer on the question of whether the upper/lower will mate with a modern DPMS pattern upper/lower. The whole thing hinges on this. I have a feeling dealers up here already have this info and are just playing it close to the chest to avoid any RCMP pre-work to come up with a plan to #### us over. I sound like a conspiracy nut but this is Canada and the RCMP we're talking about here lol

Noone wants this NR more than me though trust me lol :D (I already sold off many favorite guns to ensure money is ready in the skeptical off chance it does come in NR). But I can't get my hopes too high here.
 
Travis Bickle said:
Same.
Always swore I would never fall for the pre-order beta tester trap shenanigans.
But for these NR I will throw my cash down as fast as possible.
Remember these aren't some dodgey Canadian made/Chinese sourced/Barely developed product.
These are made by competent US machine shops/manufacturers funded by Brownells with their reputation on the line in the saturated US market where reputation is everything and you rarely get a second chance from the US consumers.
I'm still not seeing/hearing anywhere that these are 100 confirmed WILL NOT be compatible with DPMS pattern upper/lower though.
#### I wish I knew this Q and A was on when it was. That's the only question I would have asked lol
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I’m hesitant on Pre orders more now with rifles like this “that look Scary” lol. I just pre ordered a WK-108C on Thursday, was at wolverine an held one, and I was sold lol. But if this gets the go ahead I think know I’ll be driving out to their shop and saying “shut up and take my Money” lol. It’s just a waiting game till they have more info for us all. But all that said out of any one to do a Pre order with I feel very confident dealing with Wolverine!
 
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