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Browning 28 ga bps choke question
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As previously posted, I have ordered chokes for my 28 gauge Browning shotguns on a few occasions, and they never asked whether I needed invector or invector plus choke tubes. If you go to the Briley site, the only Browning 28 gauge choke tubes listed are invector,
Now the Briley site is like that but it never was. They made the so called invector plus 28ga also what ever it is or at least seperated some from standard invector. All of these were listed at one time
Read what browning said. They didnot say there never was a invector plus 28ga tube did they or one called as such. Why did they just not say we have never produced a 28ga with nothing but standard invector. They focused on the thread only and interchange which tells me there was at least two different types of something for what ever reason with the same thread
inps28CY Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .000" Constriction, Cylinder
inps28sk Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .005" Constriction, Skeet
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inps28IC Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .009" Constriction, Improved Cylinder
inps28LM Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .012" Constriction, Light Modified
inps28MO Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .015" Constriction, Modified
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inps28IM Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .018" Constriction, Improved Modified
inps28LFU Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .021" Constriction, Light Full
inps28f Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .024" Constriction, Full
inps28XFU Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .027" Constriction, Extra Full
Cheers
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Now the Briley site is like that but it never was. They made the so called invector plus 28ga also what ever it is or at least seperated some from standard invector. All of these were listed at one time
Read what browning said. They didnot say there never was a invector plus 28ga tube did they or one called as such. Why did they just not say we have never produced a 28ga with nothing but standard invector. They focused on the thread only and interchange which tells me there was at least two different types of something for what ever reason with the same thread
inps28CY Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .000" Constriction, Cylinder
inps28sk Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .005" Constriction, Skeet
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inps28IC Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .009" Constriction, Improved Cylinder
inps28LM Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .012" Constriction, Light Modified
inps28MO Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .015" Constriction, Modified
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inps28IM Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .018" Constriction, Improved Modified
inps28LFU Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .021" Constriction, Light Full
inps28f Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .024" Constriction, Full
inps28XFU Briley Browning Invector Plus Spectrum Choke Tube, 28 Gauge, .027" Constriction, Extra Full
Cheers
So have you ever seen a Browning 28 gauge shotgun that the standard invector choke tube would not fit properly. ?
Does anyone on this forum own a 28 gauge Browning shotgun that the invector chokes will not fit properly?
What difference does that make. I showed you the proof they did exist even at Briley
And why would you have heard they donot fit if they are the same thread and interchange as browning stated.
They are not back bored barrels like the 20/12 that I know for sure but think they were designed differently than the standard invector to invector plus standards to improve patterns. That being said I think the reference to invector plus became too confusing so the handle was dropped
Plus just because some one in canada has not seen something in a 28ga means nothing to me since I own almost 3 dozen of them (I forget exactly)in many makes and models and am just a little puppy when I see what others in the 28ga society have in their collections. They talk about 28ga guns that I have never seen up here or heard of so it would not be hard for us not to know about a 28ga choke tube
Cheers
My point is to determine whether there actually were different chokes, or whether this is just a case of a difference in name/labeling as in 280rem/7mm express, or 244rem/6mmrem.
Understand. From what I have found so far I think they are different from the internal design perspective only which is a bit different than the 280/7mm express
We know now the treads are the same and they will interchange
When I find out more hopefully from Briley I will post it.
Cheers
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No news from briley ? Interested in what they say
Invector Plus are not interchangeable with Invector... If Bailey calls the an Invector Plus tube, but they are the Invector thread pattern, what are they??? The answer is "Invector." Making an Invector Plus tube would make little sense when Browning doesn't make a 28 gauge Invector Plus barrel... You are getting too caught up in the aftermarket labelling.
Yes they are when we are talking 28ga both have same the thread design as browning said. We just don't know 100% why many they stamp 28gs invector plus and it is not just aftermarket labeling. I am pretty sure I know but want confirmation
Cheers
If it is interchangeable it is not a "Plus" it is simply an "Invector"... doesn't matter who wants to call them something else, including Browning or Briley... Browning has already well established the disparity between Invector and Invector Plus in their 12 and 20 gauges.
We are not talking 12 or 20 ga or back bored barrels here. I know them well and have like 6 of them in browning 12 and 20 and a #### load of 28ga
This is a 28ga choke being called invector plus and not just for a label
Yes they have invector treads but it is not the same choke as a standard invector in 28ga other than it will screw in
Cheers
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Just on briley website and they no longer list 28 inverter plus. Seems to me there has been some confusion but not one bit of beans difference. If they are sane thread they same choke as can you guess the lawsuit of someone mixing up chokes of same threads but of constriction that caused harm? Yes there are 28 ga chokes marked inv plus but I think it is a lable mix up that I doubt many have questioned. As I have a load of chokes for my hunting and skeet guns I just want others with browning 28 ga to not feel limited to chokes when looking and only finding inv plus 28. And as of now no one can or has proved they are different other then labelling
I e-mailed Browning today, to find out if they marketed 28 gauge shotguns with invector plus chokes, and if they did, were the 28 gauge invector plus chokes any different than the 28 gauge invector chokes.
They will probally not answer that question the way we want . I already tried almost the same wording and all they said it all their 28ga have standard invector threads and are interchangeable
Maybe they will give you a different answer and really it doesn't matter if they marketed their guns with them it is all the other choke manufacturers that are doing it right now Cheers
Not to mention they were doing it too at one time with thier tubes
28g Midas Grade Extended Choke Tubes Browning
Browning Midas™ Grade Extended Choke Tubes
Extend beyond the barrel for easy installation and removal. Minimul gap geometry. High-resolution "RMS" finish reduces buildup of plastics in the shotgun bore. Stainless steel with black oxide finish and Gold band. Lasar-etched. The latest Invector-Plus™ choke tube technolgy.
Browning Midas Grade choke tubes produce tighter patterns than Browning Invector-Plus choke tubes. • When used in Browning barrels, barrels must be threaded for Invector-Plus™.
Manufactured by Browning
I am going to try another route today to see if we can get a straight answer
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Proof positive would be to get to put hands on a Browning choke tube labelled Invector Plus. and take some measurements, and compare to a Browning choke tube labelled Invector. If they measure up the same, that would be proof that it is only a labeling issue.
Best I can do since nothing from Briley and it makes perfect sense to me
Hey Joe ever nice to hear from you. We were talking about you last year wondering how you were since we don’t see you posting any more
How is that 28ga herd of yours doing. Growing I hope .Ready to sell me that old model 12 LOL I have a warm spot for her to get her out of that cold up there LOL
Boy that sure took a while for the invector plus in 28ga to make it’s way up north
It confused us here initially and I will give it a try to remember the details
If I recall yes it was a promotional thing initially. Both Yes and No
The choke manufacturers like Briley who you mentioned also make most of the browning chokes which is why you have seen the Browning Midas grade labeled as 28ga invector plus also along with the Briley spectrum
They started promoting a new higher grade choke tube for the 28ga designed for clay targets that had something like a 25% longer internal straight section, closer internal tolerances and a special finish to prevent plastic wad build up plus it was an extended version and it did indeed give an improved pattern over standard invector from those that tried them. However never did they say it would interchange with standard invector
Some jackass decided to call this enhanced design 28 ga invector plus. Plus meaning an improved design over the standard invector
So you can guess what happened . 28ga owners figured it was like the 20/12 gauges and most did not buy them waiting for these new 28ga invector plus barrels to come out which they never did
Since then I think both Browning and Briley dropped it and just want to forget about it going back to calling them all invector in 28ga again
Hope this makes sense. It is a better choke design than standard invector so it is an invector plus some would say but other than internal design tolerances and performance still invector dimensions
Confusing for sure. I have no experience with those other 28ga choke brands you mentioned but would have to say they are doing the same
Y’all take care and drop in the site from time to time. We miss hearing what is going on up north in the world of canadian 28ga
