browning 300 win mag x bolt grouping propblem

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hey guys
I have a browning carbon fiber 300 win x bolt with a Leopold vx3 4.5x14x50 mounted , finding it hard to group the x bolt , have tried vises led sleds etc and different shooters, what kind of ammo are you xbolt shooters using
thanks for all your hep
 
Check that the bases and rings are properly tightened (and as TB mentioned, not too tight to be crushing the scope).
Verify that the action screws are properly tightened, and that there are no foreign materials (oil, crud, etc.) between the action and the bedding.
How many rounds fired? What distance? What is "finding it hard to group" (doesn't stay on paper at 100 meters, or not all 5 rounds are touching at 200 meters)?
Trigger too heavy? Too light?
What have you tried for ammo so far? Reloads?
Sounds like the multiple shooters not being able to get groups with the rifle, rules out a bad flinch.
Is the barrel making contact with the stock somewhere?
Being a lightweight rifle, I would expect the barrel to heat up rather quickly, and that would cause groups to open up at longer distances, if shot in quick succession.
Also, being a lightweight rifle, I would want the first and second shot to be where I am aiming, and less concerned about group size of subsequent shots.
Gun Review has an article on this particular rifle, and suggests that theirs liked lighter bullets (Browning BXR Matrix Tip 155gr, 1.12" avg group size at some distance not mentioned in the article, I would assume 100 yards).
 
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Probably a lot of recoil on that one end, because of it's lightweight; not unless you have a muzzle brake. Check the bases and rings to make sure they are snug. Reduce the trigger pull weight. There are many quality factory ammunition cartridges to choose from. I would first start off with the 165 gr. Nosler Accubond, if I was purchasing factory ammo.
 
Let's start with the basics, what size groups is your rifle shooting, and what are your expectations? If you are shooting factory hunting ammo and are getting 1.5 minute groups, that might be all you are going to get. If on the other hand you can't keep the groups smaller than 3 minutes, you have a problem. Next time you are at the range, dry fire at the target. When the striker drops, is the reticle still centered on the target? If not, you might not have a rifle problem; your position needs to be adjusted or your technique needs work. Even when shooting from the bench, a light powerful rifle like yours needs to be held firmly in both hands, and not allowed to free recoil.

Check the scope, mounts, and screws as said above. If you don't have an inch-pound torque wrench think about getting one, many shooters over tighten scope ring screws which need only 20 inch-pounds with steel rings and 15 inch-pounds with aluminum. The windage screws can be tightened up to 30 inch-pounds, and the recommended torque for action screws can be as low as 40 inch-pounds for wood stocks without pillars to 60+ for synthetic stocks with pillars. A gunsmith once told me that torquing action screws to more than 50 inch-pounds has no benefit, and will cause the screws stretch. I don't always follow that advice, but I always remember it. Screws should have a drop of blue or green Loktite to ensure they stay put. A drop of nail polish that covers the edge of one scope ring where it meets the scope tube will allow you to see any movement of the scope in the rings.

Are you confident in the condition of your scope? It might not be tracking, or perhaps not holding zero. If possible, mount a scope from a rifle that shoots well, and see if the problem persists, or mount this scope on a rifle you know to be accurate, then see if it shoots. Leupold produces a good product, but if there is any question concerning the condition of your scope, send it to the Korth Group for a free inspection and adjustment, repair, or replacement.

Check the bedding between the stock and the action, look for evidence of movement. Is there a mark on the underside of the barrel from a pressure point in the forend's barrel channel? The height of the pressure point can be measured, then removed, and replaced and adjusted later if necessary. If the forend can twist in your hands when moderate force is applied, the rifle would benefit from stabilizing the forend. I believe that Nathan Foster's stock stabilizing kits will be available in Canada again soon, you can check his website at Terminal Ballistics Research. I used this stuff on a particularly flimsy plastic stock, also a .300 Winchester, and the difference had to be seen to be believed, it turned a stock with the rigidity of a wet noodle into one as rigid as any top quality fiberglass stock. Stock stabilizing should be done prior to stock bedding; most mass produced rifles benefit from a bedding job.
 
hey guys
I have a browning carbon fiber 300 win x bolt with a Leopold vx3 4.5x14x50 mounted , finding it hard to group the x bolt , have tried vises led sleds etc and different shooters, what kind of ammo are you xbolt shooters using
thanks for all your hep

What other chamberings did you shoot and were proficient with before buying this 300? How would you describe yourself as a shooter? Experienced or novice?
 
I tried all sorts of hand loads with a variety of bullets in my 300WM. I tried 200ELDx, 190 ABLR, 180 AB and 185 berger CH. I used H1000 and H4350. I found my most accurate load came from using the 185 berger CH, I just posted pictures to my thread of the results here https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1890031-300WM-and-H4350

I hope this helps you out. I am using a Hells Canyon Speed, 26"bbl with break.
 
Not a 300wm, but my Xbolt 28 Nosler shoots like a hot damn


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Back to back 0.3moa groups this morning at 309 yards with the 180gr Berger, under RL33 and IMR 8133 - I was grinning!

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Very nice, no issues grouping with that one. I like the extended bolt handle, that's the one thing i would change on my rifle. I have a little more playing to do to get that tight of group.
 
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