In the short action cartridges they are nice, light, handy, accurate rifles with a reliable straight detachable mag. I prefer the pistol grip stock, it allows for a proper cheek weld when using a scope. The triggers seem to range from not very good to poor. The biggest down fall of the newer models with the two part hammer. You can roll the top part ahead when at half-#### for additional safety but with this new hammer style, I'm not aware of anyone who makes a hammer extension for it. So when you have a properly mounted scope it is a tight squeeze to get your thumb on the hammer.