Browning BPS Safety Issue

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Hello,

After a few months of regular shooting and basic cleanings I decided to do a thorough cleaning on my BPS. I used Browning assembly documentation and Brownells maintenance videos as reference. Disassembly, cleaning, lubrication, and reassembly went fine, but when doing a final function test the safety would not engage all the way. It would slide most of the way down, covering half of the red indication dot.
My understanding of the safety mechanism is that slide prevents the trigger from being raised and releasing the sear.
Is there an adjustment for the safety length?
The gun is functional and this issue does not affect performance, just something that bothers me. Wondering if anyone else has had the same experience or has come across a fix
 
FLHTCUI said:
Have you taken it back down and re-assembled?
It might not have been re-assembled correctly .
If it was working before disassembly it should work after reassembly, no?
Rob
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I did multiple reassembles before setting it aside to search if there are other instances of this happening
 
If the button has full travel with the trigger group removed . That would lead me to beleive the problem would be with the trigger group . sound like something I would want a qualifed gunsmith have a look at .
 
I have just been to the gun room and stripped the trigger housing out of a BPS 20 gauge.

The inside safety part that relates to the protrusion of the trigger mechanism is tucked in behind the pivot point of the cartridge lifter ( the small pin in front of the trigger group pin ).
It looks to me like the part on the inside top of the hammer that contacts the safety is either pressed into the trigger casting or there might be a very small adjuster screw just in front of the contact stub.

Also the inside bottom end of the safety mechanism has a slight angle on it as it slides at an angle.
When it all went back together if that taper is not facing in the correct direction the tolerances will be out.

Maybe that helps

Awesome shotguns.
I have both a 12 gauge 28" waterfowl model and a 20 gauge 21" Upland special.
Love them both
 
The BPS is the best made pump action around. Wingmasters do not even get close to it in terms of craftsmanship but it needs knowledge & practise to de/reassemble them. (in the rare case they need it). Remember it is not a Rustington.

RR
 
riversrest said:
The BPS is the best made pump action around. Wingmasters do not even get close to it in terms of craftsmanship but it needs knowledge & practise to de/reassemble them. (in the rare case they need it). Remember it is not a Rustington.

RR
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I find your comment interesting considering a blued bps is right up there with developing rust. In fact their bluing is one of the worst
On rare case I don't consider taking your gun apart to clean it rare. The BPS is by far the worst pump made for trigger removal/ installation
Cheers
 
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riversrest said:
The BPS is the best made pump action around. Wingmasters do not even get close to it in terms of craftsmanship but it needs knowledge & practise to de/reassemble them. (in the rare case they need it). Remember it is not a Rustington.

RR
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Says the guy comparing an Remington Express to a BPS.
I have had three BPS's of which two made it to the marsh .
They would literally be turning red in the salt air each and every time they went out.
Oh, they where coated liberally with g-96 before and after each outing.
The 10 gauge was a beast of a gun to slog with in the marsh and the BPS, well I didnt like cutting my fingers messing with the twin action bars.
But, if one holds their tongue just the right way and cross ones toes it is easy.
Thank You for the chuckle this year though.
Rob
 
For a while I was wanting to do a short barrel 870 build. Looking on the EE for receivers either Express or Wingmasters. The majority of Wingmaster receiver on offer had "some slight pitting" on mag tube and/or receiver.

Well in most cases that pitting was described not as an result of rust but "honest hunting wear", lol. So, I passed on a 870 build.

Strange that there are/were very little BPS/Browning shotguns for sale that have rust damage like the Wingmasters.

BTW. I'd recommend to switch from g-96 to Ballistol.

RR
 
riversrest said:
For a while I was wanting to do a short barrel 870 build. Looking on the EE for receivers either Express or Wingmasters. The majority of Wingmaster receiver on offer had "some slight pitting" on mag tube and/or receiver.

Well in most cases that pitting was described not as an result of rust but "honest hunting wear", lol. So, I passed on a 870 build.

Strange that there are/were very little BPS/Browning shotguns for sale that have rust damage like the Wingmasters.

BTW. I'd recommend to switch from g-96 to Ballistol.

RR
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By 1973 870 Reached two million guns, by 2009 10million had been produced.
I will concede a point that Browning has 125 years of Shotgun design and even provided designs for the Remington Model 17 and 31 pump action repeating shotguns.
But, this is all moot as the OP still hasnt figured out how to correct his safety issue.
Remington Arms since 1816 .. still Americas oldest gun maker.
Rob
 
riversrest said:
For a while I was wanting to do a short barrel 870 build. Looking on the EE for receivers either Express or Wingmasters. The majority of Wingmaster receiver on offer had "some slight pitting" on mag tube and/or receiver.

Well in most cases that pitting was described not as an result of rust but "honest hunting wear", lol. So, I passed on a 870 build.

Strange that there are/were very little BPS/Browning shotguns for sale that have rust damage like the Wingmasters.

BTW. I'd recommend to switch from g-96 to Ballistol.

RR
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Lets see first bps made in 1977 first wingmaster 1950
Bps still has not sold 1 million : 870's now over 12 million
That may have had something to do with it
I own many examples of both models and the bps bluing is terrible for rust vs a wingmaster
Cheers
 
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