Browning model 12 28 ga

warzaw said:
Times past the short version of the 28 was a load of 5/8 oz When I burn out my 28 hulls I trim them and load 5/8oz with a roll crimp to get one more bang out of a hull.
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I was thinking 5/8oz at first but then thought I think it was the same as the Imperisl 3" .410 loads my Grandfather always had a box or two of tucked in a drawer at the cottage for shooting grouse that wandered through the yard. I think and again I am searching my memory banks of 30+ years ago but I thought I had a few boxes back in the day of either 5/8 or 11/16oz Remington Express I shot grouse with out of the 28ga 101 I used to own. A buddy of mine still has that gun and though he no longer hunts he won't part with it. It was a sweet little gun. To think I traded it in on a new 686 S&W? f:P:2:
 
I have a few boxes of Winchester 28 paper hull 1oz # 6 and some CIL paper 3/4oz #6 and do they smell great when you fire them just like when I was a kid and that was a 100 years ago.
 
warzaw said:
I have a few boxes of Winchester 28 paper hull 1oz # 6 and some CIL paper 3/4oz #6 and do they smell great when you fire them just like when I was a kid and that was a 100 years ago.
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A few years ago I purchased from Marstar CIL paper hulls and with pumpkin ball slugs. They have a weird kind of fibre or horse hair wadding. So old the original box was ruined. Strange. Do you have any idea regarding possible years of manufacture?
Thx
 
warzaw said:
I have a few boxes of Winchester 28 paper hull 1oz # 6 and some CIL paper 3/4oz #6 and do they smell great when you fire them just like when I was a kid and that was a 100 years ago.
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In the late 60’s early 70’s I would shoot paper cartridges out of a Cooey 84 20 ga those were the days ��
 
I see the "new" 3" 28g offers a 1 1/16 shot at 1300,don't know if 13 more #6 pellets are going to make a huge difference even on waterfowl.
 
reddog said:
I see the "new" 3" 28g offers a 1 1/16 shot at 1300,don't know if 13 more #6 pellets are going to make a huge difference even on waterfowl.
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So the standard “revered” load for the 28 is 3/4 oz. A lot of shooters use 7/8 oz and 1 oz for reasons I can only assume are pattern density and improved effectiveness on game. So I can suspect some will try the 3” searching for the improvements they see in the other 20 gauge sized loads.
 
The 3inch 28 gauge may be market sales induced but I think a lot of it has to do with non toxic shot. The ban on lead shot is growing world wide and steel loads need volume and velocity to be effective hence the 3 inch. Any long time 28 gauge shooter knows the 3/4oz lead load performs very well in most situations . At my age I have tried most everything and know what works for me but I still screw around with loads and waste my time and money because it is fun.
 
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I am having good performance with various 28 gauge loads in the Remington 1100 Sporting 28, and my new Benelli Ethos. Mostly hunt ruffies and blues here in northeastern BC so the 2 3/4" loads are working fine. The 1100 loves the Fiocchi 7 1/2's and the Ethos likes the Remington 8's. Would love to try on Huns and Chukar as well, next time I am in the appropriate uplands...

I was interested in the 3" loads for the Benelli, for the chance I ever get to hunt pheasant while hunting antelope in SE Alberta (saw some on my last hunt in 2010), and thought that the larger shell would give me an edge here...just waiting to be able to get my hands on some to try.
 
In the past I have hunted some with the 28 gauge 2 1/2 inch 5/8 ounce load.For myself, I found it wanting in most field use, unless really close.

Starting to see more 28 gauge guns chambered for the 3 inch shell.Do not have one at present time,but will at sometime in the future,I am sure.:)
 
Brutus said:
A few years ago I purchased from Marstar CIL paper hulls and with pumpkin ball slugs. They have a weird kind of fibre or horse hair wadding. So old the original box was ruined. Strange. Do you have any idea regarding possible years of manufacture?
Thx
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Maybe someone can decipher the code on the box and date the ammo.
I have read that the "Imperial" head stamp was used 1965-1988
With a Hercules price sticker.

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Westward1 said:
So the standard “revered” load for the 28 is 3/4 oz. A lot of shooters use 7/8 oz and 1 oz for reasons I can only assume are pattern density and improved effectiveness on game. So I can suspect some will try the 3” searching for the improvements they see in the other 20 gauge sized loads.
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I have killed a truck load of upland birds with a 28 gauge using a 7/8 oz load of nickle plated 6's and 7's, wild , and released pheasants, Sharptails, Ruffies, Huns, you name it.
30 grains of H110 sends that shot payload out a a very good rate of speed, about 1320 FPS or so.
That being said, my bird hunting buddy down south uses a 3/4 oz load of 6's on the same birds using 4756 at about 1250 in his 28's and he has shot more birds than anyone I know.
Quite often for ruffed grouse up here over a dog a lot of the time I like using a 3/4 oz skeet load of 8's or 9's
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More thoughts on the 28g 3" have not seen the reported 1 1/16 ounce loads only the 1 ounce which they already have in 2 3/4 " .The Benelli is Ethos is reported? to be 5lbs. the the A 400 5lbs. 9 ounces. I have shot at least 2000 rounds of 28 lead at doves 3/4 ounce so know how effective it can be. My 16 gauges all of them are heavier than the two B guns and I have been using pretty much 1 ounce game loads in the 16's.Interesting stuff on the little 28.and the advances they are making in shells.
 
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