Browning superposed lightning

Astaziel said:
another thing, is there any reason to shoot steel, other than hunting?
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There is no reason to shoot steel shot at all. There are better choices for hunting than steel, even in a full-choked gun. Bismuth and Tungsten-Matrix is as lethal as lead yet shootable in old guns with tight chokes and thin barrel walls. If you're just shooting clays you'd be an idiot to shoot anything but lead ammo, unless you were mandated to do so by idiots.
 
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Falconflyer said:
George Digweed does, but then what would he know about shooting.....
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George has a set of barrels for his High Tech with midrange chokes. Even he recognized he was over choked for most Sporting targets. I assume he still uses tight choked barrels for FITASC. Richard Faulds, another tight fixed choke fan got his Invictus multi choked by Teague.

It would be interesting if it was possible to quantify the difference between full choke and the correct choke as needed for a particular target. Just too many variables as long as a human is doing the shooting.

I have shot Sporting and Skeet with full a lot. And I think knowing I was using full cost me more targets than the choke itself. Always trying too hard to center everything.
 
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saskbooknut said:
Other than it's not a $5k over/under that is kicking their butts. It's about as much fun, as shooting a good round at Trap, with a Cooey single shot.
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I think the entire premise is internet legend. Can’t remember an occasion where people cared one way or another what someone was shooting or how well they were shooting. Full choke pump, single shot or whatever.
 
Westward1 said:
I think the entire premise is internet legend. Can’t remember an occasion where people cared one way or another what someone was shooting or how well they were shooting. Full choke pump, single shot or whatever.
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I don't know about that. Every time I go to my local trap and skeet club, which is only about 5 times a year, everyone gets all bent out of shape over my vintage SxS.
 
Longwalker said:
Lightning refers to the style of grip - open curve, round knob. And the fore end is without a wide bottom or groove, just rounded. I have a superposed lightning long tang 20 ga. Wonderful gun. Congratulations on your purchase!
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The OP was on the right track. Lightning Grades were 1/2lb lighter!! The Superposed Lightning Broadway Trap Grade I had did not have a rounded pistol grip and it had the large semi-beavertail squared forend like a Citori.
 
Westward1 said:
George has a set of barrels for his High Tech with midrange chokes. Even he recognized he was over homed for most Sporting targets. I assume he still uses tight choked barrels for FITASC. Richard Faulds, another tight fixed choke fan got his Invictus multi choked by Teague.

It would be interesting if it was possible to quantify the difference between full choke and the correct choke as needed for a particular target. Just too many variables as long as a human is doing the shooting.

I have shot Sporting and Skeet with full a lot. And I think knowing I was using full cost me more targets than the choke itself. Always trying too hard to center everything.
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George shot his MX2000 for the first few years with only fixed full and full. After he won a few world titles with that he then had a mod and mod set of fixed choke barrels made for those close in shots!

I've also talked with other UK shooters who claimed to shoot much further targets than we did and they used only full and full chokes.
 
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the spank said:
The OP was on the right track. Lightning Grades were 1/2lb lighter!! The Superposed Lightning Broadway Trap Grade I had did not have a rounded pistol grip and it had the large semi-beavertail squared forend like a Citori.
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I've had Broadway Lighnings with regular pistol grips and wide fore stock as well as rounded (prince of wales grip) and slender fore stocks. I've only seen the wide fore ends on the later guns.
 
Falconflyer said:
George shot his MX2000 for the first few years with only fixed full and full. After he won a few world titles with that he then had a mod and mod set of fixed choke barrels made for those close in shots!

I've also talked with other UK shooters who claimed to shoot much further targets than we did and they used only full and full chokes.
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Kind of derailing here, but once you are beyond 35 to 40 yards, full is a good choice. It sure won’t cost you a anything at that distance. But most people are happy with the breaks they get out there with less choke.

If it fit and I liked the gun, I would not hesitate to use full choke shooting Sporting.
 
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Westward1 said:
I think the entire premise is internet legend. Can’t remember an occasion where people cared one way or another what someone was shooting or how well they were shooting. Full choke pump, single shot or whatever.
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Agreed.
 
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Westward1 said:
Kind of derailing here, but once you are beyond 35 to 40 yards, full is a good choice. It sure won’t cost you a anything at that distance. But most people are happy with the breaks they get out there with less choke.

If it fit and I liked the gun, I would not hesitate to use full choke shooting Sporting.
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The question was this,

"so according to you, one could do sporting clay with a full choke?"

The answer is this,

yes
 
Falconflyer said:
I've had Broadway Lighnings with regular pistol grips and wide fore stock as well as rounded (prince of wales grip) and slender fore stocks. I've only seen the wide fore ends on the later guns.
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Yes later models had those style pistol grips and forends. I found some good info a number of years back put out by Browning and they said the Lightning grades were made 1/2lb lighter by filing metal by hand from the barrels the full length and by doing the same to the bottom corners of the receivers as well as some modifications to the stocks and forends dimensions and through the selection of the grades of wood used.
 
I have a 1964 Superposed Lightning. It has a long tang, flat knob and 26 1/2" barrels choked Imp Cyl and Mod. I find the gun a bit heavy in the butt end, likely due to decent walnut being used for the stock. It has the forend attached to the barrels and doesn't come off when you break it down. Had one minor repair done and have shot it hunting for about 20 years.
This past fall my son used it for a weekend and just about every bird he shot at went down. I think I've lost the use of that gun when he's hunting with me!
Oh well, I'll just use the Citori White Lightning 16 gauge.
 
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I bought the gun that came up this weekend on the EE: a '61 12 gauge with 26.5" barrels skeet and skeet. My first superposed. Not a lightning, though. 7 lbs 10 ounces. Ouch. Good thing carrying weight is my special power. Still, not stupid heavy like my BSS 12 magnum - that gun will get carried to the duck boat and that's it.
No fear of there being any double auto's in my future though.
 
Londonshooter said:
I bought the gun that came up this weekend on the EE: a '61 12 gauge with 26.5" barrels skeet and skeet. My first superposed. Not a lightning, though. 7 lbs 10 ounces. Ouch. Good thing carrying weight is my special power. Still, not stupid heavy like my BSS 12 magnum - that gun will get carried to the duck boat and that's it.
No fear of there being any double auto's in my future though.
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