Browning vs Beretta

bdft said:
Nonsense. That may be the case with you but not with everyone. I own a number of shotguns that fit very well and have bought all of them online. Most modern shotguns "fit" most people most of the time. Adjustment just makes the process easier.
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Respectfully disagree. "Modern Shotguns" come with hugely varying LOP, different shaped and height combs, different cast off (or straight) different pitch and more. You may be very capable of adapting to bad fit - but that doesn't mean they all "fit very well". Try before you buy is a major advantage the clubs have, that online will never be able to offer.
 
Sorry Bdft, but you are incorrect.

Most shotguns do not fit most people. Most people adapt themselves to shotguns made for the mythical average. Different brands have very different fit characteristics, as stated many times in this thread.
 
bdft said:
Nonsense. That may be the case with you but not with everyone. I own a number of shotguns that fit very well and have bought all of them online. Most modern shotguns "fit" most people most of the time. Adjustment just makes the process easier.
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After trying to help many new shooters at our skeet range, it became very obvious that many people are shooting shotguns that do not fit them. The guns that come with shims to adjust fit, can usually be made to fit reasonably close, but many people will never shoot to their potential due to poorly fitting shotguns. Typically Browning has way more drop at comb than Beretta, and many European guns. Even the 725 has less drop at comb than the earlier Citori trap and skeet guns.
 
bdft said:
Nonsense. That may be the case with you but not with everyone. I own a number of shotguns that fit very well and have bought all of them online. Most modern shotguns "fit" most people most of the time. Adjustment just makes the process easier.
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You obviously have no clue about gun fit
 
Trends of the day determines what shooters are shooting.


What goes around comes around most has all been done before.


Anyone that can actually afford a true custom stock and maybe afford is a bad word, but has the time to go to a shoot and have work done is shooting the stock in the ruff and making changes for a while.

This isn’t done at a crappy tire gun counter either.
 
As for the original question.

680 series they are like a 10/22 plug and play barrels stocks what ever you like.
 
bdft said:
Nonsense. That may be the case with you but not with everyone. I own a number of shotguns that fit very well and have bought all of them online. Most modern shotguns "fit" most people most of the time. Adjustment just makes the process easier.
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There's more to gun fitting than adjusting the comb, and you may very well be the "average" shooter that the manufacturers spec their guns for!
 
A prime example of different fit is the Browning bps .between the wood stocked model and the synthetic model . Same gun but 2 totally different stock diamenions .the wood model has a very noticeable amount less drop at comb and heel . The wood model I like very much but do not shoot worth a damn . Where as the synthetic model I do reasonablely well with . To the op I would look in to pump that fits reasonably well .
 
I just went through this, decided I owed myself a new sporting gun, originally was looking at a Beretta 692 Sporting or Browning 725 Sporting. Tried a Browning 425 Trap, 525 Sporting, Citori Crossover, CXS, CXT, Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon & Silver Pigeon Sporting II, Beretta 690 Field, Caesar Guerini Summit Sporting, Kreighoff K-20, none of which felt right. One of my members picked up a Winchester 101 Sporting, tried it one round shot a 24 on the skeet field. I had a budget, now have a 101 Ultimate Field and a 101 Ultimate Sporting. Not where I figured I would end up, but fit is king.
 
I've heard some nonsense in my time, but this is a new one.
Beretta, Bernardelli, even ugly camo Benelli - works like they are supposed to, lasts a lifetime or even two lifetimes.
I could start on Spanish guns ending in vowels, but why bother.
 
there is enough difference in the sporting and/or field models of the 2 brands to cause me some concern. Made for different purposes, the sporting is "usually" longer lop, higher comb, more weight. The vowel reference is to the cast of a European stocked gun, I believe, and for some of us, he's right !
 
European stocked guns, like North American guns, are not all stocked alike.
Usually an informed post will make the point clear.
We should not be having to guess Goosegetter's point.
Broad generalisations like "names ending in vowels" are not informed posts.
 
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