Bsa martini 220 -need help

Keithjohn

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I just got this on EE . Nice old gun , I think it's a model 6 or a 12 , it's not quite clear to me so far . But the previous owner said it failed to fire 10% of the time and may need a cleaning . So I shot it and found the same and went to intranet for dissassembly instructions . No problem on takedown but a pain to get it back together did it twice so far and hope I'll find a better way . The only thing I found is the firing spring has a part of a coil broke off . Still works but where does a guy find a spring like these ?.

Or maybe a spacer washer would work ??
 
Could try a washer in the mean time. Some hardware or industrial stores carry springs. May be able to find something to work. Another member may have knowledge of where to get the proper part.
 
You measure the inside and outside diameter, the diameter of the wire, the number of coils, and the overall length of the spring when uncompressed.

Then you stick the spring into your pocket and head for a bolt supply place, hardware store, or the junk drawer, and dig around until you find a match.

If you are really hard up, you can buy spring wire from a machine tools supplier, and wind your own. You will need to sort out a couple things, like the diameter of the mandrel to wind it around (smaller than the final diameter) and the method you use to wind it (eg. you can get a special spring winding tool, or you can make a substitute that will work for one or two, or it can be done in a lathe or drill press).

I would try a spacer washer first. File or grind the broken off end to have it sit flat against the washer otherwise the crooked seating will push sideways on the striker some. May or may not make a difference, but it's easy to do.

Is the Lloyd Gun Show done already? Usually a pretty good collection of used gun parts dealers there. Worth collecting a few phone numbers while out and about at the shows.

You should have .060" or so of firing pin protrusion, maybe a bit less. I would suggest getting in to the back side of the breech block with a copper or brass tool and dig around where the firing pin fits against the back side of the breech face, for pounded hard mung, which might be present there. Rimfire mung can get pounded solid and prevent the pin falling as far as it should. But more likely the spring will solve the problem, unless prior hands have had at the various parts.


Cheers
Trev
 
Wow , thanks Trevj , many ways to skin a cat . Thanks for the knowledgeable info . I was tunnel visioned .

This gun is such a pain to get back together because you have to install the breach cocked . Next time I'm going to try a little clamp on the cocking indicator to try and hold it cocked . Then if I hold my toung right it should go better .
 
I ran down and measured two different actions and the pin protrusion on my Cadet style action, of unknown particulars, is almost exactly .060" .

The pin on the International action is a touch shy of .030", but I would expect the barrels to be fitted a little closer than the ones on a Cadet style.

Those were measured from the front of the breech face, with the pin in the fired position. Just a reference of sorts.

Cheers
Trev
 
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