Bubba came by and he brought a blowtorch...

Butcherbill

Butcherbill

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Awhile back I bought a 14” NEA barrel for my Grizzly, it had no front sight on it and shot high which I expected. I mounted a red dot adjust for the poa/poi and it worked well last season, in the meantime I was thinking of how to add a front sight to the barrel. Thought about doing a scattergun tech front and rear setup but I prefer rifle sights, have them on a 20” turkey barrel and they’re great but I couldn’t find any for sale that weren’t already attached to a barrel.

A set popped up recently and I bought them off another forum member, I got placement figured out and the bases fitted to the barrel profile and prepped for soldering. Bubba came by with the torch and I got things tinned and soldered up, pretty straight forward with no hiccups. Just need to shoot it and sight in for slugs etc, I’ve set this up a couple was since I’ve owned it but it’s finally how I want it.

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Thanks, rifle sights are my favourite style of sights on a shotgun when this style of sights are needed. Ghost rings are a close second but I prefer the rifle sights, I find them quicker and less cluttered visually.

The nice thing with both bases being mounted on the barrel is it can be swapped onto any 870 and if I swap a different barrel onto this gun I don’t have a receiver mounted rear sight getting in the way of a bead or vent rib when shooting.
 
What is the muzzle device attached to the external thread? Is it some sort of choke or brake?

Those sights look great - nice work.
 
gyates93 said:
What is the muzzle device attached to the external thread? Is it some sort of choke or brake?

Those sights look great - nice work.
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It’s a Saiga shotgun threaded choke adaptor, it threads on to the barrel and is threaded to accept Win chokes. When I bought the barrel it was already installed, works really well. There’s a ton of muzzle devices available for the Saiga thread pattern as well, if I want a breacher or brake etc.
 
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Exactly the problem I have with one of my modded 870P's.

I'm happy with the Wilson GRS on it, but if I could do all over again probably wouldn't.

Butcherbill said:
Thanks, rifle sights are my favourite style of sights on a shotgun when this style of sights are needed. Ghost rings are a close second but I prefer the rifle sights, I find them quicker and less cluttered visually.

The nice thing with both bases being mounted on the barrel is it can be swapped onto any 870 and if I swap a different barrel onto this gun I don’t have a receiver mounted rear sight getting in the way of a bead or vent rib when shooting.
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been there done it
my issue is I didn't account for the shotgun barrel upwards curvature. Had to file the front sight down quite a bit.
works very well unless you want to flush birds at low range
then the bird is gone by the time you focus on the sights
 
legi0n said:
been there done it
my issue is I didn't account for the shotgun barrel upwards curvature. Had to file the front sight down quite a bit.
works very well unless you want to flush birds at low range
then the bird is gone by the time you focus on the sights
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That’s not a concern for me, both front and rear sights are adjustable for windage and elevation and different height front blades are available. Nor is this a wing shooter, I shoot some grouse with it but it’s almost always ground swatting on roads or old logging trails in the high timber. If a grouse flushes it’s gone, this will be more of a slug and buckshot gun and ground swatting grouse.
 
0faustus0 said:
Great job! Really nice ....

Ok, I need to learn how to solder .....
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Cheers, give it a try with some scrap steel.
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It’s not very hard, the tricky part it lining things up securing the sights so they don’t move when the solder starts to flow. The tining and soldering is the easy part. These two videos were pretty helpful, just make sure you double and triple check placement before you attach them. It’s just silver solder though, if you mess it up it comes off the reverse of going on.

https://youtu.be/sBHOay8TAiI

https://youtu.be/LzDg8AwllJY
 
Cheers buddy, I really enjoy working on my own guns. No different than turning wrenches on vehicles, equally satisfying when it all works out lol.

Popped up a logging road today and quickly sighted it in, the sights are lined up great. It shot low as I hoped it would, so the rear sight block got moved up near the middle of the ramped base. Both sights are in the center of the bases for windage and shot patterns are dead center, I have lots of room for elevation adjustment in both directions so my sight placement was bang on.

Just have to decide what I want to use this shotgun for, the full choke it has in it is decent for bird and buckshot but slugs were high and to the right. Mod or IC should be better most likely, anyway nothing blew up and the sights didn’t fall off so it’s a success in my book lol.
 
Butcherbill said:
Thought I’d update this thread, so just over 5 years of solid use and the sights are still rock solid. Barrel is on a 870 now and not the Grizzly but plain old plumbers solder and paste flux worked better great.
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I prefer a bead, or 2 beads for fowling, but for everything else, rifle sights are 100% the way to go. I like Remington's set up, I have an old 870 riot gun, but I find the Mossberg 590A1 ghost ring and front blade to be fantastic.

Great job with the solder, you're braver than I to try that but have also inspired me to muck around with a 14" barrel I've got kicking around.
 
Painkillers said:
I prefer a bead, or 2 beads for fowling, but for everything else, rifle sights are 100% the way to go. I like Remington's set up, I have an old 870 riot gun, but I find the Mossberg 590A1 ghost ring and front blade to be fantastic.

Great job with the solder, you're braver than I to try that but have also inspired me to muck around with a 14" barrel I've got kicking around.
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I’ve tried the ghost ring set up and it’s not bad, I prefer not having the rear sight fixed to the receiver as well.

Shotgun barrels are fairly easy to heat up evenly without overheating them, I’m going to do another barrel or two over the winter. Have a cut down Cooey 84 barrel just screaming for rifle sights and possibly an Ithaca M37 that’s getting made into a police riot clone, it will get a Wilson combat rear ghost ring and a soldered ramped front sight.
 
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