Budget .223 coyote gun - what to avoid?

Shop used or look for some "old stock" that the dealer hasn't jacked the price yet to 2016 reality.

A Ruger American (brand new sourced in 2016) is now a 700 dollar rifle - hardly a "budget gun" anymore.

An Axis will set you back close to $500 although with a bit of looking you can still find one for just under $400 - I have one, 223 for Yote's - I clipped the trigger spring and foamed the butt with spray foam (for around doors and windows) - it shoots fine to well past the ranges you note - I feed it 55 grain Hornady's which come factory loaded in a box of 50 rounds for about 40 bucks - a good few Yote outings - heck, for 10 bucks you could feed it American Eagles and get 20 "pops".

Another "cheap" option would be a 783 Remington - it's Rem's AXIS - they shoot well and the price is cheap - $400'ish new.

A 2016 Weatherby VGII synthetic is now close to 800 bucks - or close the cost of 2 Axis.

And those are all "without glass" - An Axis XP (mid 500 buck range) or a Rem 783 with glass (just on 500 bucks) are your "only two" budget options amongst "brand new 2016" rifles.
 
op i hear you when you say shooting something living when it does not produce food
however think of this , coyotes deprive that very thing they destroy free ranging animals
they kill pets and pretty much will make a mess of anything they can get
including and not limited to harassing our tree hugging jogging and nature friends
it is a service to society let your conscious be clear
safe shooting
 
Suther said:
As I said before, I love my axis in 270, and given the fact I am a broke-ass fulltime student, I very well might get another in 223... But if I had the option, I would get something else. A big part of that is the size/weight, a 30-06 length action is pretty damn big for a 223. Another factor is I already have an axis, so I would like to try something else if I can afford to do so.

If you are not so thrilled about the idea of the hunt, perhaps looking at it from a different perspective will help. If you are around your dads place, think about your kids. Every coyote you smoke is one less that can do harm to them, or your mom for that matter. In addition to that, they will likely wise up after you drop a few of them, and spend less time hanging out there. If your buddy processes them for the hides, then that can be your reason for doing it with him. Or just think of the other game you are saving - coyotes eat plenty of birds, bunnies, ect, and aren't against eating a deer given the chance. By hunting the song dogs you are helping yourself and your fellow hunters.
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chadeech said:
op i hear you when you say shooting something living when it does not produce food
however think of this , coyotes deprive that very thing they destroy free ranging animals
they kill pets and pretty much will make a mess of anything they can get
including and not limited to harassing our tree hugging jogging and nature friends
it is a service to society let your conscious be clear
safe shooting
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Thanks for the pep talk fellas :-D

We'll call it "preserving the future of the cotton tail hunt, so my boy can cut his teeth on plentiful bunnies" or something.


galamb said:
Shop used or look for some "old stock" that the dealer hasn't jacked the price yet to 2016 reality.

A Ruger American (brand new sourced in 2016) is now a 700 dollar rifle - hardly a "budget gun" anymore.

An Axis will set you back close to $500 although with a bit of looking you can still find one for just under $400 - I have one, 223 for Yote's - I clipped the trigger spring and foamed the butt with spray foam (for around doors and windows) - it shoots fine to well past the ranges you note - I feed it 55 grain Hornady's which come factory loaded in a box of 50 rounds for about 40 bucks - a good few Yote outings - heck, for 10 bucks you could feed it American Eagles and get 20 "pops".

Another "cheap" option would be a 783 Remington - it's Rem's AXIS - they shoot well and the price is cheap - $400'ish new.

A 2016 Weatherby VGII synthetic is now close to 800 bucks - or close the cost of 2 Axis.

And those are all "without glass" - An Axis XP (mid 500 buck range) or a Rem 783 with glass (just on 500 bucks) are your "only two" budget options amongst "brand new 2016" rifles.
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Thanks for your input and all the other fellas. Much obliged folks!!

KJ
 
IvoB said:
Get a good not cheep 223 - look at the weatherby series 2 and/or CZ you may want your boys shooting it one day - as for scopes a 3-4x40 would be good I have a Bushnell dusk to dawn on my 223.

spend time with your children

ivo
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You recommend a better rifle but you recommend the ####tiest scope you could possibly get.
 
kodiakjack said:
Because Ontario. Ugh.


I'd love to, but there's dumb rules in this part of the province. Nothing over .275

-I can hunt in my back yard with a .270WSM
-I can not hunt in my back yard with a .357
-I can target shoot in my back yard with a .50BMG

Oh well. It probably helps to stimulate the firearms sales.

I take the 30s up "north" for deer and moose.
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Even dumber in NL, nothing over .225. You will do great with a .223.
 
Might as well go with the axis. I have never seen one that didn't shoot well. My dad has a .223 and shoots winchester 55g soft points and it's a tack driver. Bushnell banner 4-12x40 are cheap and good scopes for the money.

No sense getting the .243 unless you are shooting 300 yards plus. .223 kills them just as well at the ranges you mentioned
 
Get a vangaurd or 700 bdl off the exchange and get yourself a 4-12 banner. These banners punch well above there weight for the price. Zero it at 150 yards and your good to go. That winchester white box is cheap and a coyote hammer too.
 
kodiakjack:

You are blessed to have a co-working who is eager to get you out hunting 'yotes. God bless them, and yourself :)

Now you can never go wrong with a .223 since ammo is abundant in that caliber with a variety of booolits seated on top. And like you mentioned, down the road, they are always a fast seller. I'm biased to the M700 and Winnie M70 bolt guns so I won't say anything, but get what works for you, your game, your price point, your optics, your comfort level, your budget, your cool factory, your hunting mates' approval and all that fun stuff!

Cheers and good hunting! :wave:

Barney
 
Just got my Axis in .22-250 sighted in. I'm rather impressed with it, seems to have a half-decent trigger as well. It's not an especially light trigger, but it breaks cleanly. Only thing is that the barrel heats up pretty quickly, then the groups open up a bit. Shouldn't be a problem while hunting.
 
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