Budget black rifle reccomendations?

Mini-14 not exactly a black rifle but a semi that shoots 223, there are a few stock upgrades that will give it the look you are looking for.

A Mini 14 or Mini 30 would be your best option for NR and durability . You can change the stock out if you want a more AR look . Quite a number of police dept. and State Corrections in the U.S. used to use the Mini 14 ; maybe they still do .
 
Is it like a rule that at least one guy in every ar15 post has to put in there opinion on nea? I'm sure you have owned a lot of nea rifles and there all garbage right? I might as well just scrap my nea rifles there just waiting to fail.
 
Is it like a rule that at least one guy in every ar15 post has to put in there opinion on nea? I'm sure you have owned a lot of nea rifles and there all garbage right? I might as well just scrap my nea rifles there just waiting to fail.

Yup, he must have read on the internet that they are all garbage and every one of them has failed or will fail. I better sell my AR that I built with an NEA upper and lower, probably going to explode in my face if I put any more rounds through it.
While no one likes to have to use warranty at least if you do need it they are in Canada and have a pretty much no questions asked replacement policy (not that I've ever needed it with my NEA parts). Sure there are better AR's out there but for the price the NEA is a decent rifle with fantastic support from the manufacturer. If I was buying a complete rifle I would probably go with Core or Windham Weaponry for around the same money but for building a rifle NEA parts are fine.

I'm just as sick of these exact same threads popping up every week or two asking what awesome super operator non restricted AR looking semi auto rifle is available for under $1000. The answer is there are none and there never will be a quality non restricted 223/5.56 rifle for under $1000.

Norinco T97 is a disposable piece of crap with no warranty and no parts support, they may shoot but with zero quality control at the factory you roll the dice and hope to get one that works and then you're messing with it trying to get your magazines to fit because it seems like every magwell was cut to a different spec.
Ruger mini-14 or mini-30 are not black rifles. If you buy one then waste a bunch of money on a stock trying to make it something it's not you may as well have spent your money on a real black rifle.
Kel-Tek SU-16 is only good if you get the FX model and then you are over $1000. I use the term good loosely in this case as I would consider them to be decent and my experience with one so far has been positive, definitely not high end but better than the two rifles I've listed above.
Kel-Tek is capable of making quality firearms and the KSG and RFB that I owned were both reliable and did exactly as they advertised.
For under $1000 you're best option is as was mentioned earlier to buy a pistol caliber carbine but even those can be hit or miss depending which one you choose and then you're pretty much limited to shooting around 100 yards.

Maybe these repeated "I'm looking for a _____ black rifle" are just trolling threads from some anti making a list of guns to try to get banned. Hmmmmm......

Op, not trying to offend you but if you read back through the last couple pages of of black and green rifle threads I'm sure you'll find virtually the same question asked and argued about a couple times. This comes up at least once a week.
 
Do yourself a favour, buy a Norinco/Dominion Arms 556 off the EE for $600, shoot the living crap out of it this summer, that will let you know if you want to get more involved in black rifles. If you don't like it, sell it for exactly what you paid for it, if you do like it, sell it for exactly what you paid for it and upgrade!! Or stick it in your safe and now you have two black rifles!
A $600 dollar Norc will put the exact same holes in paper as a $1000 'Murican made AR, and will sell much quicker than any NA made AR if you decide to upgrade.
All bias aside, a Norc/DA is a fine first AR, and will do what you want it to do for a reasonable price
 
Do yourself a favour, buy a Norinco/Dominion Arms 556 off the EE for $600, shoot the living crap out of it this summer, that will let you know if you want to get more involved in black rifles. If you don't like it, sell it for exactly what you paid for it, if you do like it, sell it for exactly what you paid for it and upgrade!! Or stick it in your safe and now you have two black rifles!
A $600 dollar Norc will put the exact same holes in paper as a $1000 'Murican made AR, and will sell much quicker than any NA made AR if you decide to upgrade.
All bias aside, a Norc/DA is a fine first AR, and will do what you want it to do for a reasonable price

Bang on right there. I have/had 6 North American made AR15's. None of them ran any better or were any more reliable than that cheapo Norinco M4 I had. Do exactly what edgy said.

Moe
 
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