Budget Rifle\scope Combo

The Savage package gun has the advantage of having a detachable magazine, if that appeals to you.

I'd skip the tactical knob scope by BSA and instead get a Burris FFII or Bushnell with standard adjustments and a ballistic reticle. Depending on the calibre they have marks on the reticle out to 500 or 600 yards. You'll need to shoot at those ranges in any event to confirm your zeros.
 
don't do it

remember you get what you pay for. if there is any way to swing it, save more money and get a better gun. optics and mounts on the combo guns could be bought for the cost of a case of beer, and will last just as long. don't be one of those who bought the cheap gun and then upgraded soon after to a gun that works. if you like remington, save up and get the 700 sps. still inexpensive, but not cheap. money ahead in the long run.

good luck
 
I think Ive decided on the savage combo instead of the stevens - my gun dealer\friend advised against the stevens for a number of reasons, none of which I can seem to remember right now, but he was very adamant... oh the magazine was one issue.... He did say the 111fcxp3 was a good rifle, the just that the scope isn't the greatest.

The scope will get me a deer until I can upgrade it to a Burris Fullfield II w\ Ballistic Plex or a Bushnell elite 3200 w\ ballistic reticle...

I'm not going to be shooting at the range a ton with this rifle, a few boxes before hunting season and a box at most during the season. I don't need a target rifle that shoots <1" groups or anything just a plain jane magnum rifle that'll drop a deer stone cold dead at 300+ yards.
 
Stevens/Savage are pretty much the same rifle. Different stocks and finishes, and availability of the DM. You'll have to decide if it's worth the extra money. Lot of magnum naysayers, but if you can use the extra range go for it. Don't bother with the package scopes, 90% of the time that's where they save their money when they put the package together. Get a decent Bushnell or Burris (both available with ballistic marks for longer ranges), and away you go. For cost, were it my choices, it would be Stevens rifle, Burris FF II 3-9 scope and rings, and Weaver mounts. All relatively inexpensive, but good components that will work for a l0ong time. - dan
 
dan belisle said:
For cost, were it my choices, it would be Stevens rifle, Burris FF II 3-9 scope and rings, and Weaver mounts. All relatively inexpensive, but good components that will work for a l0ong time. - dan
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Totally agree with you. If I wanna move up from rimfire to centerfile, this will be my setup for sure. :rolleyes:
 
cpynch said:
I think Ive decided on the savage combo instead of the stevens - my gun dealer\friend advised against the stevens for a number of reasons, none of which I can seem to remember right now, but he was very adamant... oh the magazine was one issue.... He did say the 111fcxp3 was a good rifle, the just that the scope isn't the greatest.

The scope will get me a deer until I can upgrade it to a Burris Fullfield II w\ Ballistic Plex or a Bushnell elite 3200 w\ ballistic reticle...

I'm not going to be shooting at the range a ton with this rifle, a few boxes before hunting season and a box at most during the season. I don't need a target rifle that shoots <1" groups or anything just a plain jane magnum rifle that'll drop a deer stone cold dead at 300+ yards.
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7mm rem mag is a great cartridge my old man has one and its nice to shoot!! that being said a 260,7mm-08 or 308 will kill a deer stone cold dead just as good as any magnum at 300 yards if u put the pullet where it needs to go and just because it has magnum on it if u make a bad shot dosnt mean the animal will die. Anyways good luck on your purchase and be sure to get a better scope if u get the Savage package deal!!!:rockOn::rockOn:
 
cpynch said:
I think Ive decided on the savage combo instead of the stevens - my gun dealer\friend advised against the stevens for a number of reasons, none of which I can seem to remember right now, but he was very adamant... oh the magazine was one issue.... He did say the 111fcxp3 was a good rifle, the just that the scope isn't the greatest.
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I have both the FCXP and Stevens rifles. My local dealer tried to sway me away from getting a Stevens, he gave me a bunch of reasons to avoid it. These are the differences I could tell:

-FXCP has detachable mag, Stevens blind mag.
-Darker bluing on the barrel of the FXCP
-Gloss black bolt handle on the FXCP and flat black on the Stevens
-Softer recoil pad on the FXCP, hockey puck on the Stevens

For about the same final price I got nicer rings and scope on the Stevens, which in my opinion was well worth it. I prefer my Stevens rifles over the Savage package.
 
cpynch said:
I'm also a bow hunter - if I want to get close for a shot I'll bow hunt and shoot one 20-30 yards away :D

Ever since I was 3-4 years old and my dad bought me my first air rifle I've always wanted to shoot further and further. The 7mm rem seems like the ideal round for me, long, flat shots, with lots of power in case I want to get a moose or elk. I looked at more powerful rounds e.g. 7RUM, 7mm whetherby, 300WSM, 300 win mag and even 300 UM but they just seem too powerful for what I want to do. The bigger bullet is just going to do more damage to my deer meat, might be great for bigger game but I need a deer gun too (besides my already stated .243 Model 7) hehe

I'm all but certain I've decided to go with the Steven's and a nice $200 scope.

I saw this scope on "Sighting In with Shooting USA"... They said it was an amazing scope for $200 and has lots of features that competitors don't have at that price, anyone ever use one?

http://www.bsaoptics.com/tacticalscope.aspx?product=298

I REALLY want a ballistic reticle scope for those longer shots and from what I've seen this might be the scope to grab on a budget. Thoughts?
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BSA: Better Send Another

Junk. There are way better options out there. You can buy a Leupold VX1 or Burris Fullfield II or Bushnell 3200 or Nikon Buckmasters in your price range if you shop around. Those are all damn fine scopes. BSA is ####. And the Simmons on the Savage package gun is pretty nasty, too.
 
The Weatherby comb is your best bet!!!. The Savage fall cammo stock/simmon scope and the A-trigger comb is not a bad deal...but the weatherby shoots better than the savage!!! and is a better made rifle, however, if you want to buy U.S the savage is a good choice ..both using Winchester sliver tips..at 100m, weatherby 1" to 1 1/2". Savage appox 11/2"+! I hope this will help you.
cheers
 
dan belisle said:
Stevens/Savage are pretty much the same rifle. For cost, were it my choices, it would be Stevens rifle, Burris FF II 3-9 scope and rings, and Weaver mounts. All relatively inexpensive, but good components that will work for a l0ong time. - dan
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Yep. I'd go with Dan. Your dealer friend is not steering you right.
 
cpynch said:
Id prefer a new rifle - not a used R700.

I already have a Remington Model 7 .243 for an older rifle (1984) this time I'm looking for a brand spanking new rifle. I love the .243 just want something with a little more "whammy".
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The new savage package is the way to go. Very well built basic rifle and shoots straight right out of the box. About 460.00
 
shortaction said:
The Stevens is good bang for your buck but I would soon tire of the blind magazine.

Depends of your style of hunting though.

The Mossberg 4x4 is another option.
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The mossberg 4x4 looks nice too actually - great reviews too. I was concerned with the reliability factor with Mossberg but everyone seems to like it and it shot sub MOA @ 100 yards during testing.
 
cpynch said:
The mossberg 4x4 looks nice too actually - great reviews too. I was concerned with the reliability factor with Mossberg but everyone seems to like it and it shot sub MOA @ 100 yards during testing.
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I have one in a 300 Win Mag, it works and shoots great, bought it for a truck/Quad gun when moose hunting.

Recoil is pretty stiff with such a light gun, but not as bad as I thought it would be. I think the skeletonized sythetic stock helps absorb the recoil.

The detachable mag works nice also, snaps in nice and secure.

The only problem I have now is that I bought a 280 AI and really want to use it for Moose. Decisions, decisions!
 
look at the Tradeex website, you can get a very fine Husky in variety of calibers from 6.5x55 up to 9,3x57 generally for $200- $250,with''excellent''barrels then look for a nice older M-8 4 or 6X Leupold around $175-$200 and you will have yourself a second to none hunting rifle capable of taking anything in NorthAmerica for between $400 and $500-including a couple of boxes of shells.Spend a couple of hours fine sanding and re-oiling the walnut stock and it will look like new.I just restocked my old 6.5x55 with a nice Choate stock I saw on the tradeex site for $75.If you're on a budget-or just want a very fine hunting ifle without sacrificing anything in terms of quality, accuracy, etc, give Anthony a call
 
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