Built my first AR-15

cr5 said:
Fold the front sight (co-witness is for mall ninjas) and swap out the MOE grip for an MOE+ and you're done. Looks good

Skip the light, just adds weight and is useless unless you think you'll be going on night missions in your basement.
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-[Crosshair]- said:
That is one nice rifle. Building your own AR-15 is a hell of a lot more satisfying than buying a complete rifle that's for sure and will in some cases save you some cash because you won't be buying and swapping extra parts after buying a whole firearm. Buying a complete rifle that will work 100% out of the box and has a good warranty to back it up is also really nice to have, though.



Yeah really, I know that it's none of my business and that people can do whatever they want with their money but buying expensive lights for your restricted firearms is plenty silly, in my humble opinion.
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WRH said:
Yeah, but the guy that spends hundreds on a weapon mounted light will get the last laugh when the power goes out while he's at the local range. All the suckers that don't have a light will have to go home while he just keeps on shooting...

Seriously, I can't justify the expense. If this was a free country and you could use it for home defense, a light is pretty much mandatory. In Canada, not so much.

To the OP: Nice job. Too much MagPul for my liking but each to his own.
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cr5 said:
My range strictly enforces their no shooting after dusk rule and will revoke your membership.
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tiriaq said:
We sometimes have nighttime lights and lasers matches.
I just mount the same Surefire that I use on my pistol on the rail on top of the gas block.
Convenient top use, and effective to at least 100m, the longest range at which I have used the rifle.
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I actually prefer the front sight up, I once heard a story from a co-worker regarding a military friend of his, went to engage contact (real-life) and his optic was down for whatever reason, he returned to cover, flipped up his BUIS and when he returned to engage the threat, the fight was over. Fortunately they won that fight, but the point is that if he had his front sight up, he still would've been able to engage the threat by creating a general sight picture. And trust me you definitely can, i've turned my optic off and only had my front sight up and you can still hit targets pretty spot on at 50 because I know where my dot is relative to my front sight everytime I look down the tube. And now that friend of his always has his front sight up.

As for worrying about my optic going down in a "real-fight" and relying on my front sight for an emergency; i'll be training this year; yeah steel and paper targets but it's the mindset that I want to get right. Trying to embed combat situations in your head to work through problems such as your optic going down, well i'll be one step ahead already.

As for the weaponlight, well same thing, these training programs offer low light/no light scenerios. So there's that, if I wasn't doing these courses I probably wouldn't even have built an AR haha.
 
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the_drewster19 said:
I actually prefer the front sight up, I once heard a story from a co-worker regarding a military friend of his, went to engage contact (real-life) and his optic was down for whatever reason, he returned to cover, flipped up his BUIS and when he returned to engage the threat, the fight was over. Fortunately they won that fight, but the point is that if he had his front sight up, he still would've been able to engage the threat by creating a general sight picture. And trust me you definitely can, i've turned my optic off and only had my front sight up and you can still hit targets pretty spot on at 50 because I know where my dot is relative to my front sight everytime I look down the tube. And now that friend of his always has his front sight up.

As for worrying about my optic going down in a "real-fight" and relying on my front sight for an emergency; i'll be training this year; yeah steel and paper targets but it's the mindset that I want to get right. Trying to embed combat situations in your head to work through problems such as your optic going down, well i'll be one step ahead already.

As for the weaponlight, well same thing, these training programs offer low light/no light scenerios. So there's that, if I wasn't doing these courses I probably wouldn't even have built an AR haha.
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What military sight uses batteries? I thought pretty much everyone used a Trijicon or an Elcan. Neither of which need a battery to function. Maybe he had an Aimpoint or something? Either way, I know co-witness works but I just hate a cluttered sight picture if I don't need one. My "go to" rifle has an Elcan Specter DR so I'm not overly worried about it "going down" especially since it only gets used at the range. I do have flip ups on the rifle but once I zero'd them I folded them and they haven't been up since. Although not impossible the chances of a quality optic failing are extremely low. I guess I just don't take things that seriously that I worry about being overly prepared for a zombie attack or having to fight off invading forces.
At the range if my battery goes dead I'll just stop and walk over to my range bag and get another battery.
Not trying to pick a fight, I actually expect an economic and societal collapse sometime in the future but I just can't get my mind into taking this training stuff that seriously. If I want to train to be a soldier I think I'd just go join the military and train that way. I don't really see a need to be that prepared as a civilian, I won't be fighting a military force in any situation as I would simply run and avoid since a fight with an organized group means certain death and if some desperate civilians come my way and threaten my family I'm pretty sure I'll be better armed than most.
When I find time in my life schedule I do plan to start doing some 3-gun but even then it will be for fun and a weapon or sight failure isn't going to result in death.

Anyway, sorry, just trying to wrap my head around your apparent need to be prepared for whatever it is you're getting prepared for.

Rifle looks good and I'd only change the couple things I mentioned earlier but those are just personal taste not required changes.
 
cr5 said:
What military sight uses batteries? I thought pretty much everyone used a Trijicon or an Elcan. Neither of which need a battery to function. Maybe he had an Aimpoint or something? Either way, I know co-witness works but I just hate a cluttered sight picture if I don't need one. My "go to" rifle has an Elcan Specter DR so I'm not overly worried about it "going down" especially since it only gets used at the range. I do have flip ups on the rifle but once I zero'd them I folded them and they haven't been up since. Although not impossible the chances of a quality optic failing are extremely low. I guess I just don't take things that seriously that I worry about being overly prepared for a zombie attack or having to fight off invading forces.
At the range if my battery goes dead I'll just stop and walk over to my range bag and get another battery.
Not trying to pick a fight, I actually expect an economic and societal collapse sometime in the future but I just can't get my mind into taking this training stuff that seriously. If I want to train to be a soldier I think I'd just go join the military and train that way. I don't really see a need to be that prepared as a civilian, I won't be fighting a military force in any situation as I would simply run and avoid since a fight with an organized group means certain death and if some desperate civilians come my way and threaten my family I'm pretty sure I'll be better armed than most.
When I find time in my life schedule I do plan to start doing some 3-gun but even then it will be for fun and a weapon or sight failure isn't going to result in death.

Anyway, sorry, just trying to wrap my head around your apparent need to be prepared for whatever it is you're getting prepared for.

Rifle looks good and I'd only change the couple things I mentioned earlier but those are just personal taste not required changes.
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Some C-8's are outfitted with Eotechs...
 
cr5 said:
What military sight uses batteries? I thought pretty much everyone used a Trijicon or an Elcan. Neither of which need a battery to function. Maybe he had an Aimpoint or something? Either way, I know co-witness works but I just hate a cluttered sight picture if I don't need one. My "go to" rifle has an Elcan Specter DR so I'm not overly worried about it "going down" especially since it only gets used at the range. I do have flip ups on the rifle but once I zero'd them I folded them and they haven't been up since. Although not impossible the chances of a quality optic failing are extremely low. I guess I just don't take things that seriously that I worry about being overly prepared for a zombie attack or having to fight off invading forces.
At the range if my battery goes dead I'll just stop and walk over to my range bag and get another battery.
Not trying to pick a fight, I actually expect an economic and societal collapse sometime in the future but I just can't get my mind into taking this training stuff that seriously. If I want to train to be a soldier I think I'd just go join the military and train that way. I don't really see a need to be that prepared as a civilian, I won't be fighting a military force in any situation as I would simply run and avoid since a fight with an organized group means certain death and if some desperate civilians come my way and threaten my family I'm pretty sure I'll be better armed than most.
When I find time in my life schedule I do plan to start doing some 3-gun but even then it will be for fun and a weapon or sight failure isn't going to result in death.

Anyway, sorry, just trying to wrap my head around your apparent need to be prepared for whatever it is you're getting prepared for.
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Oh i'm not preparing for anything. Some people take it very seriously as if they are expecting to face a threat everywhere they go. As a kid I always dreamt of how cool it would be to be tact'd out and be "in the sh*t", well I don't actually want to be "in the sh*t" but I now have the chance to make a childhood fantasy come true by working as a team in a fun and safe environment. This training is mainly just fundamentals until you work your way up to more advanced stages anyways. So basically i'm doing it to familiarize myself with my firearms, be a better shooter, use my firearms to their highest potential, and get the right mindset for combat scenarios (for fun). I didn't mention that I am an armed guard for an armored cash company, so really, any training is good training, we obviously don't carry carbines, but like everyone here, I enjoy pewpewing, so really who cares.

I also want to start doing some 3-gun at some point as I hear there's a range close to home that holds matches, i'm enrolled to take my Black Badge course next month so I'm really looking forward to getting into the competitive side of shooting. But I know that'll only make me want to buy more toys, so maybe it's not a good thing ha.
 
the_drewster19 said:
I actually prefer the front sight up, I once heard a story from a co-worker regarding a military friend of his, went to engage contact (real-life) and his optic was down for whatever reason, he returned to cover, flipped up his BUIS and when he returned to engage the threat, the fight was over. Fortunately they won that fight, but the point is that if he had his front sight up, he still would've been able to engage the threat by creating a general sight picture. And trust me you definitely can, i've turned my optic off and only had my front sight up and you can still hit targets pretty spot on at 50 because I know where my dot is relative to my front sight everytime I look down the tube. And now that friend of his always has his front sight up.

As for worrying about my optic going down in a "real-fight" and relying on my front sight for an emergency; i'll be training this year; yeah steel and paper targets but it's the mindset that I want to get right. Trying to embed combat situations in your head to work through problems such as your optic going down, well i'll be one step ahead already.

As for the weaponlight, well same thing, these training programs offer low light/no light scenerios. So there's that, if I wasn't doing these courses I probably wouldn't even have built an AR haha.
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What're you talking about? Our military rifles have fixed front sight bases and the back up iron sights we're issued are also fixed sights that cannot be flipped. Did you mean a rear sight that he bought?
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
What're you talking about? Our military rifles have fixed front sight bases and the back up iron sights we're issued are also fixed sights that cannot be flipped. Did you mean a rear sight that he bought?
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He mayyyyy have been a PMC I'm not 100% sure. But it was definitely just the front sight. Or maybe he's from the states.
 
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