BUIS or no BUIS

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So I just ordered my first AR, a DD V5 (no f/sight post) and I'm trying to see people actually ever use their BUIS when plinking/3 gun etc. I plan on getting a powered optic ASAP and a good set of flip up BUIS is $200-300 which is about half the price of a Aimpoint Micro or EOTech. For now it will only be used for plinking, but in the future I would love to get into 3 gun or SR, should I learn how to shoot with irons first and then make the transition to an optic or just say f-it jump right into it?
 
Buy your Aimpoint or EOTech, you don't need buis on there unless you want to look cool.
 
Hmm, I will never compromise on a good BUIS. Shooting with optics eventually gets old and I like to plink with the irons often. I'd stay away from any plastic BUS and get quality BUIS like KAC or DD or whatnot.
 
I have had my batteries on my eotech die. Sure I had more on me but I think a set of buis is worth the cost. Sometimes I use my mbus just because I like irons
 
J996 said:
Buy your Aimpoint or EOTech, you don't need buis on there unless you want to look cool.
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i had my holographic die on me, granted not in teh middle of competition, but its nice to have the option to flip up the BUIS rather then zero a stage or shoot without sights.


only problem is now I like shooting irons way more then the holo,

magpul BUIS are cheap, light and dont get in the way, I do see lots of guys run irons at the 45 angle so they can have a scope for longer ranges, and irons for up close,

personally I find irons only marginally worse at close ranges then holos/red dots, but very effective at longer ranges 100-250m or so.

get what works for you,

just make sure you can actually shoot well with irons or its a moot point
 
I'm more of the belief that learning with irons is a great way to start shooting. Started off with optics myself and rarely ever used irons, a few years later learned how to shoot irons properly. Then when I upgraded to a sight (again) I was getting significantly better groups. But that's just my opinion and experiences, ymmv.
 
Shooting your long gun with iron sights is part of developing your basic shooting skills. You'll never be able to claim any sort of long gun proficiency if you can shoot with iron sights. Walk before you run... Get yourself some good iron sights. I like the GG&G's myself but there's plenty of other good ones out there.
 
Get the iron/polymer sights for your AR, you can do 3-gun with the BUIS. And as per the two previous posts above, learning how to shoot with iron sights will improve your shooting skills.
 
I enjoy shooting irons too. But I tend to snap on a carry handle upper to do that.

Buis can come in handy if you have to take off your PO for some reason, and what to double check that it's still sighted in when you put it back on.

The question is, will you use them ? Do you care to shoot irons on THIS gun ? If not, then feel free to skip them.
Just bring extra batteries.
 
At this point in my novice carbine shooting, I shoot much tighter groups with irons (troys in my case) than I do with an aimpoint at 100 yards and out.
 
I've been shooting my AR for 2 years with irons only and only started looking into optics now... I find shooting with irons is more fun than optics, especially at 100+ yards, since it's more of a challenge.
 
I have a few black rifles (non AR) and I always have both BUIS and detachable Tactical/Scope on them.
Both for cool look factor and because I prefer shooting irons at sub-100yd distances.

Go with a set of good metal BUIS, it will cost more but it is totally worth it, Troy (my personal fav), DD, GG&G, etc.

Stay far away from the MagPul MBUS, they are junk and you will waste the money. IMHO the worst product from MagPul. I have a few sets of MBUS (the USA not the cheap airsoft PTS) sitting back in their box on the shelf and I don't recommend them at all. The polymer is too soft, and flipping them a few times without forceably holding down the release lever rounds off the flip catch, when this wears far enough, the BUIS will start flipping up on their own with recoil. Anyone who actually uses the MBUS instead of just putting it onto the rifle for show will find this out real fast. Mine visibly rounded out after just two or three flips. Google this issue with the MBUS if you need further proof.
 
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If you're running an optic with batteries (like anything other than an ACOG) buis couldn't kill anyhthing.
If you have the money,dig in. I have matech rear buis, nothing great, but it fits under my ACOG. It's not bad to just keep around to flip back and forth, or if you can co-witness, that's another bonus.
 
All my firearms have some type of optics. But I run Daniel Defense irons on my AR and love them. I don't see the point on dropping 600$ for an optic on a range gun.
 
Looks like I will be starting off with irons. I'll just wait a little longer and save some money for a nice optic down the road. As far as spending $$$ on a range gun optic, if it's quality and will give me years of trouble free service then I'm willing to pay a bit more and get something I can put on future guns as well.

Thanks for everyones opinions.
 
I shot with an eotech to start, thought it was fantastic. Moved onto an aim point, liked the dot even better. Totally forgot about shooting with irons. One day my aim point died, bad day at the range. Went back to my irons, really enjoy shooting with them. You can shoot quite well with irons and like others said, you become much more proficient.
 
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