Bulk .308 and .223 bullet?

Butcherbill

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Looking for some options for bulk .308 and .223, mainly just for range use. For 100-300m steel and shooting some groups, so that want something with decent practical accuracy.

Have been looking at Hornady and PPU fmj’s but the Speer lineup is hard to ignore for price, I’ve always had good accuracy from Speer bullets be it factory ammo or handloads. 150gr-165gr would be fine for the .308’s and 55gr-69gr for .223, everything I will shoot them from falls into 1:10 or 1:8 twist rates.

What are you guys using with good results that aren’t breaking the bank, as much as I like Campro, I’d like something better quality. Will have a look at my local selection as well.
 
Most shooters do not like to admit ot, but for offhand shooting out to 300 meters the cheapest bulk bullets or factory ammo you can buy will do just fine .
I have proven it many times to those tgat like to argue their hand loads are
" more accurate" The nut behind the bolt is the biggest factor in offhand shooting .
Cat
 
For cheap bullets I recently stocked up on Speer HotCors for my 7mm08 and Speer BTSP for my 243win. Would have gotten hotcors for the 243win too but they didn't have any, just the BTSP. Haven't loaded any yet, but the price was right at 45c/36c a bullet.
 
I have loaded many many many Campro 55gr FMJ.
They suck.

Edit: well, that’s not fair. They do everything I ask of them so i have nothing to complain about.

And they are NOT worse ( a wee bit better) than Fed American Eagle Factory ammo which I load them to match in Velocity.

I aspire to "plink" with better bullets but the price tag is tough.

Lately, I have started building "Grade A" plinkers with 69gr Sierra MK's.
And Zombie Grade plinkers with the Campro. lol
 
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I like the speer bullets too but they don’t seem to be available like they used to be
Hornadys have gotten ridiculously priced over the last few years
Sierras are a bit less but not by much
 
iron cat said:
Most shooters do not like to admit ot, but for offhand shooting out to 300 meters the cheapest bulk bullets or factory ammo you can buy will do just fine .
I have proven it many times to those tgat like to argue their hand loads are
" more accurate" The nut behind the bolt is the biggest factor in offhand shooting .
Cat
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For pistol plinking Campro’s are hard to beat, plenty accurate as well. I’ve just read way too many comments like Beeron’s on their rifle bullets and less than stellar accuracy, from known accurate rifles.

So for now I’ll just leave them be, maybe down the road I’ll see how they shoot in .308/.223. I have some of their now discontinued .311 jacketed soft points, which shoot well in the one No.4 LE I’ve tried them in. Will have to try them in a Mosin that might benefit from a .311 bullet.

I agree the shooter has a lot to do with accuracy but starting with decent components is never a bad thing.
 
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Suther said:
For cheap bullets I recently stocked up on Speer HotCors for my 7mm08 and Speer BTSP for my 243win. Would have gotten hotcors for the 243win too but they didn't have any, just the BTSP. Haven't loaded any yet, but the price was right at 45c/36c a bullet.
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Thunderhog said:
Like Suther said, Speer are often over-looked, especially when they are a great value bullet.

Pricing is usually very competitive as well........:)
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Right on, the price is right and I’ve always had great results with Speer. Fed blue box .303 150/180gr are a Speer HotCore, Accuracy and performance on deer have been hard to beat. I shoot Speer 10mm TMJ in a pistol and they’re great as well, especially for the price.

Snider shooter said:
Hornady bulk 500 or 1000. 150 gr fmj for 30 cals and 55 gr fmj for 223 cals. 30 cal fmj is what I use in the Garand
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Will keep my eyes open, I’ve got a bunch of .308 150/180gn Interlocks and have been picking up Hornady and Sierra .223 when I see them on sale, I’d rather not plink with interlocks or Gamekings. Fmj’s would be ideal, I don’t hunt anything with .223 anyway.
 
Butchebill, I use Speer Hot Cor bullets in all of my centerfire cartridges if they're available.

For a long time, they were very difficult to find in Canada and I had to rely on bulk orders out of the US to get adequate supplies.

During the Covid shortages, Speer was one of the few manufacturers shipping consistently and most outlets started carrying them again.

They are excellent bullets, and they use molten lead to form the cores inside the jackets. This makes for very consistent performance, as long as the jacket thicknesses are kept within specs all the way around.

I shoot a couple of thousand Speer bullet every year, from .17-.444 diameter.

They can be almost match grade accurate in some rifles and I've never had one fail to perform on game if the velocities are kept within design parameters. You won't have any issues with the two cartridges you mentioned.

You mentioned that you were going to get or considering a 300Win Mag. Speer makes a "Mag Tip" bullet that stands up to just about anything asked of it, even with close shots. I use the 200grain Grand Slam in my 30-06, loaded to 2600fps, it's a hammer and I've never recovered a bullet even on Moose at 250 yds.

Both the Mag Tip and the Grand Slam are slightly more expensive than their regular Hot Cor, but they're consistently accurate and predictable.

It's nice to have bullets which are cheap enough to practice a lot with, that will also be used in the field with confidence.

Budget stocks quite a few different Speer bullets.
 
Butcherbill said:
I agree the shooter has a lot to do with accuracy but starting with decent components is never a bad thing.
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At this moment my best offhand shooting with My scoped .223 Musgrave and iron sighted 308 match rifles is right around 5 shots into 2.5 MOA to 3.5 MOA at 200 meters. This is with dirt cheap PMC and Barnaul 55 grain .233 factory and 150 grain Campro 308 bullets .
Until I can get it down to averaging that I don't see any advantage to using more expensive components .
Cat
 
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I get OK accuracy with CamPro 30 cal 147gr FMJ at 25 cents each. These group not too bad from my .308 at 2800 fps mv could likely improve with some fine tuning.

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