Bull s**t stop by CO
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Adrian J Hare
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- NewLowell On. Can.
They also have a list of hunters in the area WMU's that they check off as they check licences.
No big deal unless they threw you up onto the car and frisked you before asking to see your licence. The higher in power wants to see the list of checked hunters at the end of the season/hunt, thats all....
No big deal unless they threw you up onto the car and frisked you before asking to see your licence. The higher in power wants to see the list of checked hunters at the end of the season/hunt, thats all....
- Location
- London,Ontario
Who is to say that the CO didn't think there MIGHT be a chance "in his mind, remember he/she is only doing their job" that MAYBE, you might have illegal game in your truck, or your over your limit and your going to eat after your hunt?
They are only doing their job man. Don't be so hard on em. At least they are out there in force unlike up here where I see the "only" CO drive past me once in a blue moon.
And no, I am not an MNR cop
They are only doing their job man. Don't be so hard on em. At least they are out there in force unlike up here where I see the "only" CO drive past me once in a blue moon.
And no, I am not an MNR cop
The same could be said for every other person in the restaurant,or in town for that matter.They may have taken off their hunting coat and cap and left it in their vehicle.The point is that the people being checked were obviously NOT HUNTING,and were not in a location where it was legal to be hunting, when they were checked.They were checked simply because they were wearing some orange garments.I often wear my camo parka when outdoors when not hunting,and I have never been checked by a CO because of it.
So what happens if you are wearing an orange hat and coat and you don't have a licence?
They confiscate the hat and coat till you get one
Outcast
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Damn..........did you get her number?
Your assuming that is was a female...funnny when I read the first post by Stormbringer , I was thinking , that needs to be clarified.....
I was pulled over by a CO one night coming home late from hunting around 8:30. Legal time was 5:30 and hunting was finished for 3 hours. He said he noticed blood on the tailgate of my pick-up and my orange hat and pulled me over for a game check.
I said sure, no problem. I told him there was no deer in the truck as I left it at the farm hanging there. I was coming home late after a BS session and a couple of soda pops skinning deer in the machine shed with the boys.
Then he asked to see my rifle to check if it was loaded and I said, actually it is cased and behind the seat. He replied, well, I will have a look at it.
I replied politely, I am not hunting and have not been hunting for 3 hours, if you want to see it when I am hunting no problem. He said , yah, that's fine , your right, carry on and have a good night. I said,you bet, catch you again.
I refused his request politely and he thought it all made sense and we both carried on with no hard feelings and everything was good. I think it all has to do with the positive attitude that you bring to the plate.
I said sure, no problem. I told him there was no deer in the truck as I left it at the farm hanging there. I was coming home late after a BS session and a couple of soda pops skinning deer in the machine shed with the boys.
Then he asked to see my rifle to check if it was loaded and I said, actually it is cased and behind the seat. He replied, well, I will have a look at it.
I replied politely, I am not hunting and have not been hunting for 3 hours, if you want to see it when I am hunting no problem. He said , yah, that's fine , your right, carry on and have a good night. I said,you bet, catch you again.
I refused his request politely and he thought it all made sense and we both carried on with no hard feelings and everything was good. I think it all has to do with the positive attitude that you bring to the plate.
My buddy and I were just walking out of a restuarant.I had orange hat ,he had orange coat.The warden turned around and stopped us before we got into the truck.We were not in the feild and not hunting ( in town ).I know they have alot of power but this was crazy stopping us coming out of a place to eat imho !!!!.Almost rerhassment if you ask me !.I was really pissed
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I don't really see any problem here. If you have nothing to hide, who cares if he stops to talk? What did he ask you? Did he accuse you of anything?
I don;t need orange to be identified as a hunter, and I don't really care if they stop me, as I'm not hiding anything...
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I've had lots of good officers stop me, they do a quick check and send you on your way. But the second Saturday of season this year we had the same guy stop us 4 times and check our licsences and guns each time. Saying he did not rcognize the trucks. We were doing bush pushing and driving to different locations(not road hunting all day). I then told him if he stops us again I would be putting in a harrasment complaint to his superior officer. He then got quite rude and started to say that he should be pressing charges to people that hunt in groups. I asked him what the charges would be for? He then got in his truck and drove off. I guess he doesn't like it when 5 people are pushing bushes.
stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- S.W. Ontario
Those words are the bane of my existance.
If you have nothing to hide
Mine too. In other words, your privacy rights don't matter "if you're not hiding anything...right?" Who cares if the Canadian Charter protects us from unreasonable search and seizure, right?
On a related note, a few years back I was camping with a friend in a wall tent in northeastern BC. Deer hunting. 9:00 at night, a vehicle drives across the farmers field we were camping on. Yup, the C.O.'s. Keep in mind it has been dark for 4 hours.
They swung open the tent door and said hi, then asked if they could see our licenses. My friend started to grab his jacket to get his, when I stopped him and asked, "Why? Are we hunting right now?" To which they said, "Well no". You know where I'm going. I told them that since we weren't hunting and were in fact in our residence for the evening, I didn't understand how they could come in and ask for a hunting license. In fact I didn't understand why they had entered private property (the farmer's field AND the tent) without permission; they hadn't seen the commission of an offense so they had no legal right to do that, right? How is this any different than their knocking on the door of someone's home and asking for a hunting license? They didn't have an answer for that.
They let it drop, to their credit, and we had a friendly conversation. I asked if they wanted to share a "beverage" with us. They laughed and declined, wished us a good night, and left without our licenses being mentioned again.
I'm all for supporting law enforcement personnel, but sometimes they overstep their authority. I don't think it's a bad thing to politely and respectfully remind them of that when it happens.
Mine too. In other words, your privacy rights don't matter "if you're not hiding anything...right?" Who cares if the Canadian Charter protects us from unreasonable search and seizure, right?
On a related note, a few years back I was camping with a friend in a wall tent in northeastern BC. Deer hunting. 9:00 at night, a vehicle drives across the farmers field we were camping on. Yup, the C.O.'s. Keep in mind it has been dark for 4 hours.
They swung open the tent door and said hi, then asked if they could see our licenses. My friend started to grab his jacket to get his, when I stopped him and asked, "Why? Are we hunting right now?" To which they said, "Well no". You know where I'm going. I told them that since we weren't hunting and were in fact in our residence for the evening, I didn't understand how they could come in and ask for a hunting license. In fact I didn't understand why they had entered private property (the farmer's field AND the tent) without permission; they hadn't seen the commission of an offense so they had no legal right to do that, right? How is this any different than their knocking on the door of someone's home and asking for a hunting license? They didn't have an answer for that.
They let it drop, to their credit, and we had a friendly conversation. I asked if they wanted to share a "beverage" with us.
They laughed and declined, wished us a good night, and left without our licenses being mentioned again.I'm all for supporting law enforcement personnel, but sometimes they overstep their authority. I don't think it's a bad thing to politely and respectfully remind them of that when it happens.
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The OP said nothing of a search of anything. The post doesn't say anything other than the CO stopped his truck to talk to them. To which my response is "Who cares?" Now if they were searched/fined/or detained for no reason, then that is an entirely different topic.
I don't see anything unreasonable here, and we don;t even know if he asked any questions about hunting or licenses. Maybe he asked for directions.
My buddy and I were just walking out of a restuarant.I had orange hat ,he had orange coat.The warden turned around and stopped us before we got into the truck.We were not in the feild and not hunting ( in town ).I know they have alot of power but this was crazy stopping us coming out of a place to eat imho !!!!.Almost rerhassment if you ask me !.I was really pissed
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I enjoy talking to the CO. I've met quite a few nice guys out traveling between sites. They are frequently willing to update you on what areas they've noticed being hunted heavily or lightly and where they've seen big game taken or foraging. Get to know them and they can be quite helpful. Many that I've met are passionate outdoorsmen.
I've openly offered for them to see my licenses or firearms and I've frequently been told it's not necessary. Act like an ass and you deserve the harassment. Treat people like decent individuals and you'll find they like it. If you're not hunting, tell them so and you'll get to keep your fugly orange hat.
I've openly offered for them to see my licenses or firearms and I've frequently been told it's not necessary. Act like an ass and you deserve the harassment. Treat people like decent individuals and you'll find they like it. If you're not hunting, tell them so and you'll get to keep your fugly orange hat.
