Bullet drift

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Hey all... Im pretty new to hunting and had a situation last night that is driving me nuts. I bagged a few coyotes, which feels great, but i missed one, and am scratching my head about it. My hunting partner thinks it was probably bullet drift from the wind, I didnt think it would affect a bullet this much.

The wind was hitting the field at about a 45 degree angle to our shots. It was hitting from my back, away from us, crossing from left to right. Im shooting .243 hornady superformance 58g vmax @ 3925fps at the muzzle.

The winds were approx 15km/hr or just under 10miles per hour.

How much drift would you expect in this situation?
 
The wind would be measured at full value if at 90 degrees and at half value if quartering. Time of flight is an expression of the how long the bullet is exposed to the effect of the wind. Terrain and vegetation can result in variations to wind strength and direction along the trajectory of the bullet. For rough figuring (very rough considering your high muzzle velocity and low BC) multiply the wind speed in MPH by the range in hundreds of yards and divide by 15 if the range is within 500 yards. So if your coyote was 300 yards away in a full value 20 MPH wind, 20X3=60 60/15= 4 MOA or 12" In a half value wind it would be 2 MOA or 6".
 
I cant believe i forgot to mention how far the shots were!! They were about 200 yard shots. approx.

My buddy was thinking about 4" of drift, so i guess that sounds about right eh? (2-4" or something like that) wow, i really wouldnt have thought it nearly that much.
 
Their are many free ballistic programs available on the net that you should check out, they will really open you eyes up to how much effect the wind has on your bullets in flight! Also if wind is a major concern you should look at using a longer heavier bullet that has a higher B.C. yes your velocity will be slower but the bullet is more efficient at cutting thru the air!.....just something to think about trying.
 
Cool, thanks i will. I like those bullets for coyotes... they drop them stone dead, but maybe on a windy day i need to look for an alternative.

So how do you guys figure out your drift in the field? You get there, pick your spot, have a good idea of wind speeds know your distance... but you dont have a calculator or your computer with you... is it going to be 2" or 4"...

Does this just come from experience and is basically an estimation, or do you carry those fancy wind speed machines...?
 
It can be as simple as checking the weather forecast for wind speeds, but the best thing is a wind meter and learning how to use it properly for shooting. I personally own a Brunton wind meter but their are many other good makes out there. Over time you can also learn to judge wind speed by looking at the mirage thru your rifle scope. I am assuming the velocity your quoting is the estimated velocity on the box of ammo. If possible chrono your rifle with this load to get true velocities and run the B.C. of this bullet which is .25 and the velocity into the program, I always enter a 10 MPH wind coming from 9 oclock. You can use KPH if you prefer, you can also have the chart read in M.O.A. or inchs for your bullets wind drift. Once you have this chart you can double your wind hold for a 20 MPH wind or if the wind is only 5 MPH cut it in half. Oh by the way the wind rarely comes from a perfect 90 degree angle and you have to take that into account as well! Good luck and have fun!
 
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Cool, thanks i will. I like those bullets for coyotes... they drop them stone dead, but maybe on a windy day i need to look for an alternative.

So how do you guys figure out your drift in the field? You get there, pick your spot, have a good idea of wind speeds know your distance... but you dont have a calculator or your computer with you... is it going to be 2" or 4"...

Does this just come from experience and is basically an estimation, or do you carry those fancy wind speed machines...?

The best way to learn to compensate for the wind, is to shoot in the wind. As well, as you shoot in the wind, you will become better at judging the velocity and wind direction all the way from the shooter to the target. A wind meter, can only measure the wind speed and direction, at one location at a time, the speed and direction of the wind can vary considerably, over longer distances.
 
Get the windproof bullets ;) Soak them in a bucket of steam for a few hours this will cut down on drift.
 
Cool, thanks i will. I like those bullets for coyotes... they drop them stone dead, but maybe on a windy day i need to look for an alternative.

So how do you guys figure out your drift in the field? You get there, pick your spot, have a good idea of wind speeds know your distance... but you dont have a calculator or your computer with you... is it going to be 2" or 4"...

Does this just come from experience and is basically an estimation, or do you carry those fancy wind speed machines...?

The formula I gave you earlier is simple enough to use on the fly, and generic enough to be viable across a wide velocity spectrum, but as Stubblejumper said, to get good at shooting in the wind, you have to shoot in the wind.

I borrowed a Kestral wind meter with the built in A-Trag ballistic program from a local fellow and used it for a couple of months. Its good enough to be a worthwhile expenditure for a dedicated long range shooter, but I doubt that a varmint or big game hunter would get the value from it. What it does is measure real world wind, humidity, and temperature, and produce a firing solution for the range at which you intend to shoot, based on your specific bullet and velocity. And its correctable for variances in velocity and BC. The downside of this little wonder besides it's cost, is that the small screen can be difficult to read in bright sunlight, like you might have on a clear cold day in the winter, when sunlight is reflected back off the snow. What is kind of neat is that the firing solution is seldom static, as wind drops and rises, and atmospheric pressure changes, the solution is constantly in flux which reflects true conditions.

What I use primarily now for long range shooting is a load specific whiz-wheel from Accuracy 1st. You send them your instrument velocity and bullet specs, and they will produce the whiz wheel specific to that bullet and velocity. The solution is also velocity/BC correctable, and you enter most of the same parameters that you would with the A-Trag, except you don't have a weather meter fine tuning the solution.

That's all fine for shooting at long range, but for practical shooting at live targets, over the ranges that are typical when hunting, a simple wind formula that you can use on the fly is more appropriate and will still put you on target . . . if you practice.

Estimating wind speed is simplest with a flag, provided the wind speed is under about 25 mph. You look at the angle of the flag or wind sock to the pole, divide the angle by 4 and that gives you the wind speed in mph. If the flag sticks straight out at 90 degrees, the wind speed is about 22 mph, if it raises slightly, it is about 25 mph, but here is gets tricky because a stronger wind will not raise it any higher than a 25 mph wind. If the flag only rises to about 22 degrees, the wind speed is 5 mph, 45 degrees its 10-12 mph and so on. Experienced long rang shooters can do a similar thing with mirage.

By now your yelling at the computer, "So who carries a flag into the field with them!!??" A field expedient solution to this problem is to carry a rag, about 12" square. Hold it between your thumb and finger with your arm extended out at shoulder height, let the rag drop, then point to it at the moment it first hits the ground. The angle between your body and your arm when you point to the spot the rag contacted the ground is divided by 4, which gives you your wind speed in MPH.
 
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The worst is head winds and tailwinds. A perfect headwind will be a zero drift, but it probably isn't perfect. A wind coming from 1 O'clock or 11 O'clock will give you half of the drift of a full force crosswind and that subtle difference is easy to miss without flags or a spotter. Even worse, its just as hard to tell if that little shift is now from the left when you calculated for the right. Then you get a double whammy, which has the same effect as ignoring a full force wind.

The best way I've ever found for learning to shoot in the wind is shooting steel gongs. You should be able to spot your own hits through your scope and the instant feedback will teach you quickly. Shooting a string of shots in a changing wind at paper will drive you crazy. You won't know which shot was which.
 
Sounds like the best solution is to get out shooting more!!

After our last hunt we both agreed that we need to get out in the wind and hit paper so that we can see what is really going on.

Thanks for the advice and help folks!
 
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