bullet feeder for Dillon 650

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Howdy folks,

I've been looking into the various bullet feeders out there and was hoping I could get some real world input from those of you that have put one of these on your Dillons.

Right now I'm looking at the Mr. Bulletfeeder and the RCBS bullet feeder. From what I have read, they work somewhat similarly, but the information out there is not the greatest.

It seems the RCBS one is much more prone to malfunctions/breakage compared to the Mr. Bulletfeeder. Apparently the collets in the feed die wear out relatively quickly. True/false?

Caliber conversions do not seem to be available for the RCBS one at this time. The pistol version comes with conversions for common pistol calibers, but if you want to do rifle (I load .223 now and may load others in the future), right now you need to buy a whole new feeder from what I can tell. True/false?

Can anyone tell me as well what the Dillon adapter for the RCBS feeder is for? I would think that as long as you set the proper belling setting on your Dillon powder measure you should be good to go. Is this a case of the Dillon measure will not adjust to bell enough so you need some kind of doohickey to bell it more? Does this adapter go on the powder measure or does it go in a separate station? If it goes on the powder measure, does it throw your charge setting out of whack? I am guessing not as I don't think the belling adjustment/drop mechanism should affect anything in the powder area of the charge bar but I am not positive either.

I gather there is a different powder funnel that comes with the Mr. Bulletfeeder that goes on the Dillon Powder measure. Same question as above... does it throw your charge setting out of whack?

Has anyone found the extra belling to be an issue with how long your brass lasts? How much extra does it bell? I hear the Mr. Bulletfeeder requires less belling. True/false?

So far I am leaning towards the Mr. Bulletfeeder due to reliability, less belling, and also availability of conversion kits. I probably won't get around to actually getting one until the summer or later but I'm starting the research now, and I want to make sure I have my info/facts straight.
 
I have the Mr BulletFeeder mounted on my 1050. It's never let me down.

The only time it's failed was when a damaged bullet made it into the tube.
 
I have a Mr Bullet feeder on my 1050. It comes with it's own powder funnel...but I'm using the one that came with the 1050 with no issues. That could be due to the fact that teh 1050 has a case expander at station two. No particular reason that I'm not using the funnel that came with the feeder...I just never bothered to change it over.

I don't think extra belling will be an issue...in fact, if you do put too much bell in the e case mouth...the bullet will tip over as it travel to the next station. I have very little bell now...and it works no problem.

It was pretty simple to setup...you won't be sorry for spending the money!
 
Quigley said:
I don't think extra belling will be an issue...in fact, if you do put too much bell in the e case mouth...the bullet will tip over as it travel to the next station. I have very little bell now...and it works no problem.
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I currently am set to bell just enough to get a bullet to start to go in a little bit if I try to put one in with my fingers, i.e. the "normal" amount you would set. By your estimation is that enough? I try not to over-bell so as not to weaken case mouths.
 
I have the Hornady and Mr. bullet feeder, i like them both but find the Mr. more reliable, quieter and faster...it should be for the price differance... :)

As Quigley says its well worth the cash, if you are thinking about getting it in a few months you will want to call Rick and get on the wait list, I talked to him a few weeks ago and it was still a 15 week wait to get one....
 
Quigley said:
I don't think extra belling will be an issue...in fact, if you do put too much bell in the e case mouth...the bullet will tip over as it travel to the next station. I have very little bell now...and it works no problem.
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Also thought of something... on the 1050 the dies are what moves up and down, not the shell plate, right? On the 650 it's the shell plate that moves up and down, and it indexes partway through its vertical travel. Would you maybe need more bell on the 650 to keep from the bullets falling off?
 
mechanik said:
I currently am set to bell just enough to get a bullet to start to go in a little bit if I try to put one in with my fingers, i.e. the "normal" amount you would set. By your estimation is that enough? I try not to over-bell so as not to weaken case mouths.
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The powder drop that comes with the feeder has a little step in it and i find as long as the step makes it into the case its enough bell for most bullets, there is nothing to worry about you will not be damaging any cases...

In my opinion it is less bell than I used to use with out a bullet feeder, it has to be tighter so the bullet wont tip when moving especially on a 650 as they are more violent...
 
mechanik said:
Also thought of something... on the 1050 the dies are what moves up and down, not the shell plate, right? On the 650 it's the shell plate that moves up and down, and it indexes partway through its vertical travel. Would you maybe need more bell on the 650 to keep from the bullets falling off?
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No less bell is better, the mr. bullet feeder dropper die holds 9 bullets or so and the weight is used to tamp the bullet into the case, this is where the Hornady falls a little short as it uses a different dropper set-up and holds back the rest of the bullets....
 
mechanik said:
I currently am set to bell just enough to get a bullet to start to go in a little bit if I try to put one in with my fingers, i.e. the "normal" amount you would set. By your estimation is that enough? I try not to over-bell so as not to weaken case mouths.
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It should be enough...

The Mr Bullet feeder seats the bullet by using the weight of the other bullets in the tube...
 
Do you have any isues with the shell plate "snapping" into position?

I did for a while...and it was a pain with the 3N37 Major 9 load spilling powder.

I trimmed the spring on the detent ball...still spilled powder.

Then I decided to coat the bottom of the shell plate with heavy weight "Slide Glide" It made a nice friction fit to the press...and presto...it no longer snaps in...and no more spilled powder.

Yet another use for Slide Glide!!


JOJOPINTO said:
No less bell is better, the mr. bullet feeder dropper die holds 9 bullets or so and the weight is used to tamp the bullet into the case, this is where the Hornady falls a little short as it uses a different dropper set-up and holds back the rest of the bullets....
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it is a little snappy, i have trimmed the spring and also tried the bearing and washers under the main bolt, i find if you get the shell plate adjusted just right it works for me but I am loading regular 9mm so the case is not that full..

thats a great idea with the slide glide, i have a bunch i should try it...It must collect allot of powder and dirt though...
 
Quigley said:
Then I decided to coat the bottom of the shell plate with heavy weight "Slide Glide" It made a nice friction fit to the press...and presto...it no longer snaps in...and no more spilled powder.

Yet another use for Slide Glide!!
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I use lithium grease on the underside of my shellplate. Think that would be sufficient?
 
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