Bullseye load for M&P 9mm?

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I am a revolver shooter who has loaded with Bulleye (3.2 gr for 158 gr LSWC) and am buying a new M&P 9mm. I've never loaded 9mm before and would like to load with Bulleye (because I have it). I'm ordering some 124gr Cam Pro plated bullets. I'd like to build a starting load to test that is light yet reliably cycles the action. I'll be paper target shooting out to 50 yards (PPC).

Can anyone who knows M&P 9's please suggest a reasonable starting load for Bulleye and the 124 gr bullet?
 
3.5 to 3.6 grains of Bullseye should do the trick. However I might go to 3.8 grains for the 50 yard line however pointless. The standard S&W M&P is a pretty good auto to the standard PPC 25 yard line. We're talking 3" and a small bit of real, useable barrel length.
Out to 50 yards, you could do a whole lot better & get better scores with a better gun.
 
hatman1793 said:
3.5 to 3.6 grains of Bullseye should do the trick. However I might go to 3.8 grains for the 50 yard line however pointless. The standard S&W M&P is a pretty good auto to the standard PPC 25 yard line. We're talking 3" and a small bit of real, useable barrel length.
Out to 50 yards, you could do a whole lot better & get better scores with a better gun.
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Thx for the load suggestion. You're likely correct on choice of pistol, but it comes down to initial investment. For $630 I get all I need to start shooting PPC semi auto with the range kit. It's a second gun for me as I use a S&W model 15-2 with a 6" 586 barrel and a Murray Charlton trigger job as my primary.
 
I tried 3.5 and it was erratic on target at 25 yards but more importantly it would not cycle the action - not even a partial ejection. 3.8 was accurate at 25 yards but again the action would not cycle. 4.1 was also accurate and cycled well. "Accurate" to me was "cover 6 shots with a spread hand shooting standing with a two hand grip" - a good start and hopefully I can improve with practice.

Thanks for all your input. Much appreciated.
 
Unfortunately accurate and light usually don't go together. You need to push that projectile faster, especially since it's only a 4.25" barrel. Your load range for Bullseye and a 124 gr. projectile is approximately 3.9 to 4.5 grs. Since you've tried 4.1 grs. I'd jump to 4.3 grs. and see if that tightens the group up a bit.
 
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4n2t0 said:
Unfortunately accurate and light usually don't go together. You need to push that projectile faster, especially since it's only a 4.25" barrel. Your load range for Bullseye and a 124 gr. projectile is approximately 3.9 to 4.5 grs. Since you've tried 4.1 grs. I'd jump to 4.3 grs. and see if that tightens the group up a bit.
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I'll give it a shot (pun intended). However there is a significant "operator error" factor in play as well.

Gary
 
diopter said:
For one handed bullseye shooting it was horrible. Believe what you wish.
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That's not what you said. You said, and I quote, "My friend's original MP trigger was so bad, accurate load development was an impossibility". That statement is completely ridiculous. The M&P's ability in "one handed bullseye shooting" is a different matter/conversation.
 
4n2t0 said:
The OP asks about load data and you recommend a trigger, lol.
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I expect he was responding to my point about "operator error" as an accuracy factor and suggesting an improved trigger as a correction.

In that regard I've been a revolver guy till this M&P so I'm used to a long take up DA trigger in the 8 lb range. I don't think I'd go to the forward trigger or the Apex competition action kit because in PPC we shoot several times from a holstered pistol and a forward trigger and a 2 lb trigger pull doesn't seem too safe. I'm getting used to the trigger (was a bit "scratchy" but is smoothing out already) but if I wanted to upgrade I'd more likely look at the Apex duty action kit. It gives a 5-6 lb trigger pull but does not reduce the take up distance, which is ok by me.
 
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