Burris Fullfield II vs Veracity (Glass quality difference)?

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I've noticed in the store that my eye likes Burris glass. The FFII seems to be bright, sharp and have good colour (I haven't seen many scopes however). I was looking at a Veracity online (I know they're 2.5x the price) and I'm wondering on how much better the glass is than the FFII? I checked out a Nikon Prostaff II vs the FFII and the FFII was much better to my eye. I realize that was Nikon's entry level scope, but I haven't seen their better offerings.

My friend bought a Vortex Viper PST and I also thought the glass was excellent. A larger objective lens is preferred for me as I wear eyeglasses and the more light, the better for me (I'm looking for 50mm objective).

Burris Veracity, anyone?
 
Brianma65 said:
I didn't like mine and sold it . Wasn't the clearest ,to me.
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For the price asked for these, that would be a deal breaker right there. My friend's Viper PST was nice and clear to my eye, but that's a $1000 scope.

Maybe I should be looking at these in the store before I buy them, however there isn't much to look at where I am, unless I go over to Michigan (then of course, I can't buy there).
 
I have a Bushnell legend ultra HD4.5-14 ,$350. I find it to be clearer than the veracity,I had.
Be good if you can take it outside and look through it.
 
I have 2 veracity 3_15s and at least 8 of the full field II ... The glass on all Burris scopes is good.. The Veracity are better in low light without a doubt but again there is a huge price difference ... Full fields in my mind are one of the best bargains out there..
 
Brianma65 said:
I have a Bushnell legend ultra HD4.5-14 ,$350. I find it to be clearer than the veracity,I had.
Be good if you can take it outside and look through it.
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Do you wear glasses, by chance?

Randy B said:
Full fields in my mind are one of the best bargains out there..
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I think they have good glass for their price point. Sounds like the Veracity doesn't have much better glass, just more features.

Is the Predator Quest series much of an upgrade?
 
No I don't wear glasses, I had a veracity 3-16 , $800, sightron stac 3-16 $700 and a Bushnell LRHS 3-12 $1400.
I found the veracity and stac a bit hazy ,on max power at 100 yards. The Bushnell was amazingly clear,but it should be at double the cost.
Personally,I think these 6,7,8 hundred dollar scopes are a waste of money.
You think your getting something,that your not,and you'll end up disappointed.

Clarity ,cost money.No ifs,ands or buts ..:)
 
st1264 said:
I don't have the cash to pony up right now for that kind of glass.
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I understand, maybe wait awhile longer. Not good when you pay out $800 ,only to be disappointed.
What about the Sightron S111 series? It seems to get ,only good reviews.
Or maybe the Leupold VX3. I've seen them on the EE for $600 +.And they get good reviews also.

What do want to use it for?
 
I think they have good glass for their price point. Sounds like the Veracity doesn't have much better glass, just more features.

Is the Predator Quest series much of an upgrade?[/QUOTE]

The glass in the Veracity is quite a bit nicer to my eyes.
Front focal plane is interesting if you use the Ballistic Plex works on all powers..
Never looked thru a predator quest.. Suspect it is a marketing strategy on fullfield II.
scopes.. The difference between good glass and great glass often times requires huge dollar difference for relatively small difference optically. More noticed in the low light \ lousy viewing situations.. .In good conditions sometimes it will be less apparent.. Scope mechanical systems are better now than they ever were as well ..Warranties are great if you ever need to use them as well...
 
Biggest downside to a Veracity is the weight.. Theses are heavy units.. Supposedly heavier wall thickness tubes. 30 mm of course.. Interesting test is to take different brands out at night with no external ambiant light and see how far they work for U .
Another test is to look at news print placed farther out until you can't read it any more.
 
There is a noticeable difference in the glass quality.

The FFII's are one of their lowest end options. They are decent and that's what I usually steer deer hunters towards if they want a Burris. I put them in line with a Nikon Prostaff (not the 5 or 7's) etc.

The Predator Quest line is a step up. I can't really tell "a great difference" in the glass - have a slight clarity advantage, but that may just be subjective. They have a better reticle (these have the E1 reticle compared to the little hash/dots on the lower vertical cross hair). This scope is essentially the Burris E1, just branded to Predator Quest.

The Veracity is a different beast all together. The glass is better but the biggest difference is that it is a First Focal scope and it has a 30mm tube. Trying to compare it to the Fullfield II, E1/Predator Quest line is apples and oranges aside from them both being scopes.

The glass in the Veracity line is the same as you find in the Steiner GS line of scopes. Both Burris and Steiner are owned by Beretta.

Most of my scopes are Burris because I consider them the best value for the money, no matter whether you are buying a 300 or 1200 buck scope. And I do sell them, as well as Steiners, Leupold, Nikon, Bushnell and a few lesser brands at work - but again, just my opinion....
 
Personally I find the E1 reticle a little too fine on the Fullfield scopes.. I own one in 3-9x but the Ballistic Plex reticle on the others are good.. Just my opinion... I also have one of the Burris six- six 2-12 X. Superb glass on that one , maybe a touch better than the Veracity...there again your mileage may differ....
 
galamb said:
There is a noticeable difference in the glass quality.

The FFII's are one of their lowest end options. They are decent and that's what I usually steer deer hunters towards if they want a Burris. I put them in line with a Nikon Prostaff (not the 5 or 7's) etc.

The Predator Quest line is a step up. I can't really tell "a great difference" in the glass - have a slight clarity advantage, but that may just be subjective. They have a better reticle (these have the E1 reticle compared to the little hash/dots on the lower vertical cross hair). This scope is essentially the Burris E1, just branded to Predator Quest.

The Veracity is a different beast all together. The glass is better but the biggest difference is that it is a First Focal scope and it has a 30mm tube. Trying to compare it to the Fullfield II, E1/Predator Quest line is apples and oranges aside from them both being scopes.

The glass in the Veracity line is the same as you find in the Steiner GS line of scopes. Both Burris and Steiner are owned by Beretta.

Most of my scopes are Burris because I consider them the best value for the money, no matter whether you are buying a 300 or 1200 buck scope. And I do sell them, as well as Steiners, Leupold, Nikon, Bushnell and a few lesser brands at work - but again, just my opinion....
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FFII vs Prostaff II was won by the FFII, with my eyes at the store. So the difference between a FFII and an E1 Burris is just the reticle?

Would one think the Leupold VX-1 or VX-2 would be superior to the Burris FFII or pretty similar in glass quality?
 
I tried a Leup V2. 2-7 X and wasn't happy.. Sometimes it boils down to what you see in a side xside comparison. E1and FII glass appears the same to my eyes .I suspect the grind formula is the same then the EI are etched and the FII 's are put together ..Mechanical advantage to an EI ......
 
I put my Veracity up against my XTR-II and the Veracity won in both brightness and clarity. Contrast was a tie. Not bad for scope nearly half the price of the other. I sold the XTR-II since the only thing different between them was reticle illumination. The Veracity glass is excellent for its price range and you have the option of using them with or without turret caps. I think the Veracity, with its FFP and reticle, is the finest varmint scope under $1000.
 
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I currently have two Burris scopes, a Burris Fullfield II 6.5-20x50 on a 300wm (top rifle). And a Burris Veracity 4-20x50 on 260rem (bottom rifle)



Both are great scopes but out of the two I find myself leaning to the Veracity though. This is the first time I have used a scope with a 30mm tube, side focus, zero stop, and ffp reticle and the more I use it the more I like it and get used to it the more I find myself thinking I need to put one of these on my .223.
I find that both work great in the low light conditions that come in the last half hour of the day hunting.
At full power I do find the Fullfield II does get a little bit hazy on cloudless sunny days (perhaps due to the lack of a sun shade?) otherwise at any other power setting the view has always been nice and sharp.
With the Veracity I have always found the image to be sharp regardless of the power setting, that ffp reticle will take a bit more getting used to as the power setting changes the reticle size will also change.


Russ
 
Ya be careful shooting thru a chronograph when the reticle changes size... Don't ask me how I figured that out....��. The glass in my first Veracity made me purchase another ... But the decent glass and great value made me purchase 12 fullfields..
 
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