Wow! Not bad at all.
Thanks for the PM Calum.
Timberlord - Nice picture; how much did that one cost you?
Bush Rifle?
- Thread starter Rohann
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Wow! Not bad at all.
Thanks for the PM Calum.
Timberlord - Nice picture; how much did that one cost you?
I''ll have to ( almost)repeat what Ipscgraz said about his.
I was 14 and inherited my No4 from Grandad 37yrs ago and it's been my main deer rifle for 35 seasons.
The rifle is actually all matching with original stocks .
I bought extra stocks already sported and change them out for hunting , and keep the original stocks safe at home while hunting. The No4 is great for this and only takes a couple minutes to do it.
IMHO , the No4 makes the best bush gun because of value , dependablity/accuracy , power and very versitile .The rest is up to the shooters capability.
Here's some other different "modes" I can do with it.
This is all the same rifle.
original
No4T wannabe
L42 wannabe
I was 14 and inherited my No4 from Grandad 37yrs ago and it's been my main deer rifle for 35 seasons.
The rifle is actually all matching with original stocks .
I bought extra stocks already sported and change them out for hunting , and keep the original stocks safe at home while hunting. The No4 is great for this and only takes a couple minutes to do it.
IMHO , the No4 makes the best bush gun because of value , dependablity/accuracy , power and very versitile .The rest is up to the shooters capability.
Here's some other different "modes" I can do with it.
This is all the same rifle.
original
No4T wannabe
L42 wannabe
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For local I'd go with calum and his suggestion of Pullens. They know their stuff and if they don't have exactly what you're looking for at the time, come back every 2-4 weeks and they'll soon have it. Be warned though, you'll probably end up with some unplanned purchases too. That store's dangerous on the wallet.
I've picked up two #5 Enfields about three summers ago for $345 and $240. The cheaper one has less of the original finish and the dreaded Ishapore screw but a pristine bore, the more expensive one looking very good, though I think that the bore is just slightly dark. I also purchased a 1944 Maltby for about $200 listed as having a crack in the stock, though it turned out when I took the rifle apart to have been professionally repaired with some sort of epoxy. It has a nice bore as well. For the most part I've just fired some cast reloads in these rifles and need to play around a bit more with bullet diameters and powders, but they are all reasonably priced shooters and collectables. Igman and S&B ammo help to lower the price of hunting ammo, though any Crappy Tire or Walmart should carry some soft points at reasonable prices for centrefire ammo.
I have only tried my 91/30 a couple of times and found it pleasant to shoot, and think that if you could get your hands on a few boxes of S&B or Igman soft points, plus some Czech surplus that it should not cost too much to shoot. SIR and Tradeex just lowered their prices on these rifles and carbines, and they have the advantage of being arsenall reburbs. The M38, M44 and M44 laminated stocked rifles are all reasonable choices currently available at decent prices. Despite the metaphysical discomfort caused to me by their having been used by the Red Army, I'm slowly getting over that and learning to enjoy them. Mind you, I'd better try my M44 and M38 with some full powered rounds before I try to tell anyone how enjoyable they are to shoot.
If you could get your hands on a nice 8mm Mauser, you can still get reasonably priced hunting ammo from Igman or S&B, though surplus is difficult to find. However, there's not many dealers online carrying them currently, with the Tradeex rifles costing over $300 before delivered to your door. There might be the odd Turk available for under $200, but they are mostly long rifles. You might be able to get a nice 8mm Husqvarna based upon the M96 action from Tradeex for under $300, or one of the Stiga 96 sporters in a variety of calibers, perhaps even with an Aimpoint or low powered scope. Unfortunately, the Husky's tend to have dried out stocks that need to be glass bedded before shooting extensively. They have listed Stiga's in 6.5x55, 8mm, 30.06, .270 and perhaps a few other calibres however which might serve you well.
Of course, the Stevens 200 is a great rifle, but at about $350 shipped to your door, you still need to get mounts, rings and a scope that adds at least another $100 plus for just a very basic setup. At that price, it might do you just as well to buy an M305 instead.
Good Luck!
Frank
I have only tried my 91/30 a couple of times and found it pleasant to shoot, and think that if you could get your hands on a few boxes of S&B or Igman soft points, plus some Czech surplus that it should not cost too much to shoot. SIR and Tradeex just lowered their prices on these rifles and carbines, and they have the advantage of being arsenall reburbs. The M38, M44 and M44 laminated stocked rifles are all reasonable choices currently available at decent prices. Despite the metaphysical discomfort caused to me by their having been used by the Red Army, I'm slowly getting over that and learning to enjoy them. Mind you, I'd better try my M44 and M38 with some full powered rounds before I try to tell anyone how enjoyable they are to shoot.
If you could get your hands on a nice 8mm Mauser, you can still get reasonably priced hunting ammo from Igman or S&B, though surplus is difficult to find. However, there's not many dealers online carrying them currently, with the Tradeex rifles costing over $300 before delivered to your door. There might be the odd Turk available for under $200, but they are mostly long rifles. You might be able to get a nice 8mm Husqvarna based upon the M96 action from Tradeex for under $300, or one of the Stiga 96 sporters in a variety of calibers, perhaps even with an Aimpoint or low powered scope. Unfortunately, the Husky's tend to have dried out stocks that need to be glass bedded before shooting extensively. They have listed Stiga's in 6.5x55, 8mm, 30.06, .270 and perhaps a few other calibres however which might serve you well.
Of course, the Stevens 200 is a great rifle, but at about $350 shipped to your door, you still need to get mounts, rings and a scope that adds at least another $100 plus for just a very basic setup. At that price, it might do you just as well to buy an M305 instead.
Good Luck!
Frank
An M-14 would be fun, but it's fairly expensive (hard to find for cheap) and it's semi-auto...
Enfield it is! Yeah the hunting store here's ammo is bloody expensive, so I'm going to see if I can get my hands on a larger amount of S&B ammo.
Oh my 91/30's a lot of fun, the main problem with it, however, is that the sights were built for use with the bayonet on, and the rifle's long enough as it is. The bayonet I got also doesn't completely fit the barrel, so it's rather impractical. The bolt is kind of a pain though; it's got two halves, so it's more complicated than need be. The action is also a real pain to work, especially with the straight out bolt handle.
I'd love to get a Mauser, but I looked around for one and couldn't find any (Marstar used to have them but they're sold out of all of them). I think an Enfield is still the best way to go; accurate enough for my applications, reliable, and easy to find for cheap.
Thanks!
Enfield it is! Yeah the hunting store here's ammo is bloody expensive, so I'm going to see if I can get my hands on a larger amount of S&B ammo.
Oh my 91/30's a lot of fun, the main problem with it, however, is that the sights were built for use with the bayonet on, and the rifle's long enough as it is. The bayonet I got also doesn't completely fit the barrel, so it's rather impractical. The bolt is kind of a pain though; it's got two halves, so it's more complicated than need be. The action is also a real pain to work, especially with the straight out bolt handle.
I'd love to get a Mauser, but I looked around for one and couldn't find any (Marstar used to have them but they're sold out of all of them). I think an Enfield is still the best way to go; accurate enough for my applications, reliable, and easy to find for cheap.
Thanks!
My 91/30 shoots fine without the bayo - remember - those russian snipers didn't have them on either
- Plus it only needs 1 flat head screwdriver to take down.
Island outfitters is way too expensive by the way, if you're in Victoria. Make the trip to pullens, buy there. Island outfitters seems to embarassed that it sells gun stuff anyways. Pullens will always have your ammo, parts, and another gun you want, often for the price you want too.
If you're set on the enfield, remember, you'll eventually need to get a bolt tool to clean the eons of gunk that will be in there. Well, not true actually, boiling water will loosen it up. Anyways, I've got mosins mausers and enfields, take the mosin out in bad conditions because I know it inside and out, whatever feels best is what you'll use, so handle them all and what clicks with you is what you should buy.
Preferably two.
And one of each other one just in case.
- Plus it only needs 1 flat head screwdriver to take down.Island outfitters is way too expensive by the way, if you're in Victoria. Make the trip to pullens, buy there. Island outfitters seems to embarassed that it sells gun stuff anyways. Pullens will always have your ammo, parts, and another gun you want, often for the price you want too.
If you're set on the enfield, remember, you'll eventually need to get a bolt tool to clean the eons of gunk that will be in there. Well, not true actually, boiling water will loosen it up. Anyways, I've got mosins mausers and enfields, take the mosin out in bad conditions because I know it inside and out, whatever feels best is what you'll use, so handle them all and what clicks with you is what you should buy.
Preferably two.
And one of each other one just in case.
fat tony
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Rohann I've got a Jungle Carbine, I can't think of a more suitable rifle for hunting in Canada, maybe I have not got that much of an imagination, but I'm left handed and with a little practice, I find it easy to reach over and manipulate the bolt. If you're not left handed it will be even slicker to work. As for accuracy I have not got enough trigger time to know for sure how it will group but it's pretty promising so far accuracy wise. It seems that getting the gun zeroed with the iron sights is the biggest hurdle, and we want our bullets to strike at the point of aim for hunting anyways. If you're gun is consistently shooting low with the sight setting at the range you're shooting at, you can always file down the front sight until it meets, at least that's my thinking anyways. Best regards Tony.
If I remember right a buddy of mine and I spent an afternoon at the range with my No.4 with every height of front site we could find.
After finding the right one we concentrated on windage and it's still set in the same place.
He was a tech at the time and after doing some research he found that the battle sight zeroed at 25m gave you a 250m battle sight zero.
About the same as my M-14 if I remember right.
After finding the right one we concentrated on windage and it's still set in the same place.
He was a tech at the time and after doing some research he found that the battle sight zeroed at 25m gave you a 250m battle sight zero.
About the same as my M-14 if I remember right.
Yukon hunting
Having just lived in the Arctic I know non-residents need to have guides to hunt. I would not be surprised if this is the same for the Yukon. It can get pretty pricey so you may want to check the details on the Gov of Yukon website. fyi
Of course if you had to defend yourself against a gris, that would be a different story. You wouldn't get to keep it though. Also for Dal sheep you need something scoped and a good pair of hikers and a spotting scope.
Having just lived in the Arctic I know non-residents need to have guides to hunt. I would not be surprised if this is the same for the Yukon. It can get pretty pricey so you may want to check the details on the Gov of Yukon website. fyi
Of course if you had to defend yourself against a gris, that would be a different story. You wouldn't get to keep it though. Also for Dal sheep you need something scoped and a good pair of hikers and a spotting scope.
DSean: Thanks for the info, I'll have a look; hopefully you won't need too high-end of a guide, as we know quite a few hunters up there that would gladly take us out.
Airborn: Blech! Lever gun! And aren't 45-70 rounds bloody expensive and fairly hard to find?
-Rohann
Airborn: Blech! Lever gun! And aren't 45-70 rounds bloody expensive and fairly hard to find?
-Rohann
As a non-resident of the Yukon, in the summer you can hunt rabbits, ground squirrels and porcupines on your own without a licensed guide. In the fall, (after September 1) you can also hunt grouse, ptarmigan and waterfowl without a guide.
To hunt big game, non-resident aliens must be guided by a registered Yukon outfitter. Non-resident Canadians must be guided by a registered Yukon outfitter OR guided by a Yukon resident holding a Special Guiding Licence.
All non-residents must pay harvest fees on any big game animals killed, prior to leaving the Yukon.
To hunt big game, non-resident aliens must be guided by a registered Yukon outfitter. Non-resident Canadians must be guided by a registered Yukon outfitter OR guided by a Yukon resident holding a Special Guiding Licence.
All non-residents must pay harvest fees on any big game animals killed, prior to leaving the Yukon.
