Bushmaster ACR Enhanced $2779
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Bill Dauterive
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Totally, if it can be bought as gun without a barrel in non-restricted form there would be more sales and when an 18.5+ inch barrel becomes available it can become functional.
Having that rifle in NR form would have them flying out the door. Personally I only plink on my own property without an RPAL, so Restricted is a no-go from the start.
What interests me about this rifle is that it seems to be of AR heritage which are restricted regardless of barrel length. What heritage is this gun from? Is it not an AR type platform?
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Magpul completely redesigned the AR with a piston design and ambidextrous controls. Pretty much the only thing they kept was the trigger. So yeah, technically its from AR heritage but don't let the RCMP know or it'll become restricted!
In all seriousness though, at least they're taking time with the non-restricted barrels and making them work. Did you guys see the clusterf#$%ck that happened with Questar?
Bill Dauterive
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Do you mean the T97 Chinese bull-pup from CanadaAmmo?
That situation is completely ridiculous and shows how we have no power when they confiscate, take them to their shop and are able to make them full-auto. If they are douches they say they were full-auto when they received them.
Tavor, IVI and other $3000 bull-pups get the pass, but the affordable one for the common man; nope.
Anyways good call on slowly introducing a new platform restricted for a bit, then add a longer barrel. If there was another one with Questar let me know the gun; I didn't see anything.
edit: Nevermind, saw the SCAR thing. :\
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No, I meant the thing where Questar rebarreled the ACR with their own 18.5 inch barrel and it caused no end of problems where the gun couldn't even function. It's why no one is doing it now - the gas block on the ACR is apparently special enough that everyone needs to wait for Bushmaster to release the extended barrel. Hopefully they do it soon, and with a 1:7 twist.
My two cents on the whole 18.5" Questar barrel thing. I owned one of the first NR Questar ACR's and it had a shim problem which Questar, in all their greed, refused to acknowledge. Regardless, I corrected it myself, with a little help from some other CGN'ers. Once that was complete the rifle shot amazing.
I'm of the opinion that Bushmaster will not produce a match grade NR barrel. Yes, they may produce a NR barrel, but they are trying to keep the costs down on a rifle that is very expensive in the US, compared to an AR, which does the same thing. What good is a 18.5" barrel .223 barrel, if its shooting 2" to 3" groups at 100 yds (i.e Tavor, XCR, Mini-14, etc).
I'd want a match grade stainless barrel, that produces results like a Noveske, or WOA barrel (1/2" to 1"). We need a match grade after market producer to do that. Questar's barrels have huge potential, they just need to work through some of their QC issues with their supplier. I'm not a Questar fan, but I do want some of the products only they seem to be able to provide.
I'm of the opinion that Bushmaster will not produce a match grade NR barrel. Yes, they may produce a NR barrel, but they are trying to keep the costs down on a rifle that is very expensive in the US, compared to an AR, which does the same thing. What good is a 18.5" barrel .223 barrel, if its shooting 2" to 3" groups at 100 yds (i.e Tavor, XCR, Mini-14, etc).
I'd want a match grade stainless barrel, that produces results like a Noveske, or WOA barrel (1/2" to 1"). We need a match grade after market producer to do that. Questar's barrels have huge potential, they just need to work through some of their QC issues with their supplier. I'm not a Questar fan, but I do want some of the products only they seem to be able to provide.
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I don't know what Tavor you were shooting, but mine sure as hell doesn't get 2 to 3 inch groups at 100 yards even with the crappiest military surplus ammo you can find. A match grade barrel would be nice, but it's going to take awhile as the ACR is too expensive for a lot of Americans to adopt. After the customer service fiasco at Questar, I don't believe they would be willing to continue production of these barrels anytime soon. Bushmaster has already released an 18.5" barrel for the ACR and several Canadian suppliers have said they might be in end of July-mid August. Regardless, having an ACR that is not just a range-only gun would be really nice, and I would be willing to forego sub-MOA accuracy with a stock barrel.
I'm sorry, some Tavor's only shoot 3" to 4", but I was being optimistic
. I've owned two Tavor's, and can shoot my Noveske's to 1/2" to 1", but I could never bring a Tavor in Below 2" with Match ammo. As for NR ACR's being here anytime soon, I'd bet money they won't be here this year. Gravel is the distributor and they told me they's have guns last November, so I'm not holding my breath. When Bushmaster starts selling ACR's with the Remington upgrades, and there is a match grade 18.5" barrel available, I'll get back in the ACR game. Until then, the sidelines is where I'll be. It's a pitty, as the ACR has more Canadian potential then any other rifle for its NR classification, and AR accuracy potential.
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That is a Fuuck up way to do business, good for short term, never long term. I was going to buy a rifle from them, and heard few Night mare story, Now I keep my money and go to shooting edge in Calgary, JR is a Wicket Business man.
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Bill Dauterive
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Absolutely. I'm an NR shooter, don't feel like dealing with ATT's, driving to a range, range fees.. I've been wanting a plain 20" AR-15 for so long, but it's evil. The ACR becoming NR would be the fix; unfortunately when it comes out I still won't be able to afford it. Maybe in 10 years.
Next gun is going to be a bolt action 30 cal anyway, money, always the factor.
Wow,the things you read. I am a shooting enthusiast,I am located in Montreal. I principally deal with my range CRAFM.(12) ... Great. I have purchased from other suppliers and never had a bad experience.PGWDTI (2), wolverine supplies(benelli M4,black hills ammo 9mm+P 115gr HP,Dante (2),Armament technologies(2),Core-tac solution(sniper specialty gear),etc.. So far. I have bought a few guns from Questar... Sig 516, KAC sr-15 iws Bk, KAC sr-15 iws FDE, KAC Sr-25em,Acog RCO M4(yes! ITAR,have 2). And other stuff including the ACR 18.5" stainless match barrel. Mark and Scott have been really super. The Questar barrels needed someone who knew what they r doing to install. My good friend R OH bought the same barrel, he installed the Gas block with screws(drilled and tapped to retain on barrel).
1) Flash hider is welded on barrel( I used an infrared torch instead of regular to remove)gas system will not come out unless u remove.
2) I marked the barrel indentation for the pin and used a precision grinder carefully to make the indentations for the pin retention.
That's it!! The barrel was a perfect fit. I installed a KAC Triple tap. The threads were a little long but the Tr.tap comes with a shim kit, I didn't want too many shims so I used a crush washer. VOILA.
Not at all a problem, so I tell you first hand,they sold a good product. I would like an extra gas and barrel lock system from Bushmaster( hard to get but not impossible). If Questar is willing to make an 18.5" barrel in 300 blackout... I'll definitely buy one.
My only problem is some suppliers that per-order and carry NO STOCK!! boys "it takes. money to make money" carry the right products and they will sell. But economic recession is a good excuse so I understand. The guys who did this before know who u are!! BAD Business.
1) Flash hider is welded on barrel( I used an infrared torch instead of regular to remove)gas system will not come out unless u remove.
2) I marked the barrel indentation for the pin and used a precision grinder carefully to make the indentations for the pin retention.
That's it!! The barrel was a perfect fit. I installed a KAC Triple tap. The threads were a little long but the Tr.tap comes with a shim kit, I didn't want too many shims so I used a crush washer. VOILA.
Not at all a problem, so I tell you first hand,they sold a good product. I would like an extra gas and barrel lock system from Bushmaster( hard to get but not impossible). If Questar is willing to make an 18.5" barrel in 300 blackout... I'll definitely buy one.
My only problem is some suppliers that per-order and carry NO STOCK!! boys "it takes. money to make money" carry the right products and they will sell. But economic recession is a good excuse so I understand. The guys who did this before know who u are!! BAD Business.
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