I picked up a new 4200 series 6x24x40. Mounted it on a rifle and when bore sighting yesterday the hairs are still 12 inches left of the bull at full adjustment.I never had a problem before with the rifle with a lower powered scope with a shorter tube. When I stand back and look down the barrel and scope tube,because the scope is so long,it looks like the scope is off center and pointed towards the left side of the barrel. So a quick question...what set of rings would give me some adjustment to get the scope more centered?? The bases are weaver type. I am going to try a different shorter scope in the mean time....but bought the 6x24 just for this rifle.....any thoughts??
bushnel elite 4200..ran out of windage adjustment..suggestions needed
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I swapped the rings around from left to right( 1/2 a turn)...not front to back. I was on the range working with a friends rifle and really didn't have time to play with my own toys.I can sure give it a try though.That just made me think..I turned the back ring around.The front was left alone. So on the 2 rings( weaver rings high set) The scope was looking like it was pointing even more to the left. I am starting to wonder if its just a crappy set of rings that weren't milled straight? My brain was all over the world yesterday...really couldn't come up with a solution.
The scope rail could have been mounted out of true. I ran into this problem years ago and I use the Millett steel rings which have windage adjustment built into the arms that grip the rail. I set my scope to zero in windage, set up the bore sighter, and use the lateral adjustment in the rings to come to a coarse centre. I fine tune with the turret until I'm on with the bore sighter and do my actual final adjustments at the range. It's always worked well for me and though I've heard some negative comments about the ring bases not being solid, I've never had them fail or work loose. Maybe with some of the severe recoil or "hot" magnums it would be an issue, but for .303, or .308, they've been excellent.
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This problem is one of the primary reasons manufacturers came out with 30mm scope bodies. The larger tube allows for larger internals and more MOA of adjustment. I suppose they got tired of being blamed for taped holes being drilled off center.
In this case, as you state the rifle has had other scopes without the problem. It certainly is not the scope, or miss drilled mount. It can only be the rings. Either take them back, try the front to back trick already suggested, or lap them. I would personally take them back if possible. Another solution might be a set of windage adjustable bases, i think Leupold and Burris make them. That however costs money, and why should you pay for faulty rings..twice.
In this case, as you state the rifle has had other scopes without the problem. It certainly is not the scope, or miss drilled mount. It can only be the rings. Either take them back, try the front to back trick already suggested, or lap them. I would personally take them back if possible. Another solution might be a set of windage adjustable bases, i think Leupold and Burris make them. That however costs money, and why should you pay for faulty rings..twice.
if the mount holes are drilled off center or otherwise messed up, easiest is to get a set of Burris Signature Zee rings, 1inch or 30mm, they have plastic inserts that go next to the scope. You can use 0 inserts or different offsets 5-10 on both front and rear or just one of them if it isn't too bad. That will adjust for messed up elevation or windage.
The 30mm rings come with offset inserts, the 1inch requires buying the offset insert set separately.
The 30mm rings come with offset inserts, the 1inch requires buying the offset insert set separately.
Weaver Classics I believe they are called.
Work same way as the .......ugh........ug......fuglgy Millets, but way prettier.
Gland Slam my man....lol
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/71624/weaver-grand-slam-steel-windage-adjustable-rings
If you switch to a windage adjustable base (e.g. Millet), set the scope to middle of adjustment range, and then bore sight the scope using the external adjustment. This will give you about full adjustment range left and right.
I might have it here. I tried switching the rings front to back...no dice ,still over. So I took off a set of blued high rings off one of my revolvers.Meh I had a new set of silver rings for it anyways so swapped them. Put the blue rings on the rifle...still over to the left. Took the rings and turned them around...now with a rough bore sighting at a pipe about 75 yards away. It looks like I am now about 12 inches or so to the right!!! Poifect....now gotta tighten every thing in and see if it stays the same. I really hate fighting with things that should be so simple!!
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Burris Z rings with the insert kit will let you dial it right in ... love them
LOL...the barrel is 26 inches long and 15/16 thick at the muzzle!! Aint gonna bend that very easy!! So did a final tightening down...hairs were 12-14 inches right of center of the bore. That was sighting in again on a piece of pipe.Then I used the corner of a shed..same thing still to the right.So in theory..gives me 48 clicks or so of adjustment.I wa going to go up and snag a different set of rings off another rifle. But that would be a pain in the arse. Swap more rings and resight other stuff in..I like the zee ring theory...if I ever have another problem like this I will get a set. But being 2 hours one way from any gun shop or a week by mail...had to use something to figure it out. Thanks for all the help folks...sure was muchly appreciated and all..
You would not be surprised as to the lack of quality control that comes from gun manufacturers these days and Remington leads the way . A barrel exterior my look straight that does not mean the bore is straight and I seen this on quite a few new Remington's that we have sent to the gunsmith for modification's .
