Bushnell Legend 5-15x40mmAO Mil-Dot?

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I'm a big fan of the Bushnell Elite 3200/4200 series. Been looking at the new Bushnell Legend series & thinking about one in
5-15x40mmAO with the mil-dot reticle. Anyone have one of these? Comments?

$219.95 at Wholesale Sports... :cool:

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Application would be on a 'target rifle' in 7mm-08. Nothing too serious. Just some casual paper punching 100-300 yards...
 
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My friend has a 3200 in 5-15x40. It is fine on the lower power settings but once you crank it up you really notice the decrease in performance. I can't see how the lower end version would be better. Todbartell had the same experience with his.
 
1899 said..... My friend has a 3200 in 5-15x40. It is fine on the lower power settings but once you crank it up you really notice the decrease in performance. I can't see how the lower end version would be better. Todbartell had the same experience with his.... ...

That's the problem with high power scopes....the exit pupil in millimeters (the circle of light you see at the ocular - and what your eye uses) is the quotient of the diameter of the objective (in millimeters) divided by the power set. EG this 3200 scope, at 15 power, would have an exit pupil of 2.6mm.

Additionally the variable employs (usually) more glass elements each one of which will reduce the amount of light that is passed to the viewer. The result will be the perception of a dimmer, more difficult to see image (if the eye isn't placed exactly) .

Conversely a shorter variable eg 1.5 - 6x, 40 would have an exit pupil of 6.66mm at maximum magnification - greater than the diameter of most fully dilated eye pupils - adequate and providing a noticeably brighter image.

Yes it is true that a higher power may provide improved detail but if the image is so dim you cannot make out the detail it is irrelevant. In fact for anything but a nice bright day and a good rest -- the shorter variable will probably perform much better than the high powered one. AP
 
AP said:
Additionally the variable employs (usually) more glass elements each one of which will reduce the amount of light that is passed to the viewer. The result will be the perception of a dimmer, more difficult to see image (if the eye isn't placed exactly) .

Yes it is true that a higher power may provide improved detail but if the image is so dim you cannot make out the detail it is irrelevant. In fact for anything but a nice bright day and a good rest -- the shorter variable will probably perform much better than the high powered one. AP
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It is true that the more glass elements you have the less light is passed to the viewer, but not every glass element is made equal!

And that is why a 50mm or 56mm Objective lens would help with the exit pupil - a 50mm at 15x would give an exit pupil of 3.33mm

I'm just saying that NAA may be better off with a different scope. But the best way to find out is for him to try it out at 15x in various lighting conditions.
 
I've got one of these (5x-15x Legend) scopes on a .221 Fireball that I use for gophers. The scope is quite decent in terms of clarity and function. I don't use the elevation adjustments once its sighted in, so I can't comment on the repeatability of its adjustments. It does hold its zero, though.

These scopes are apparently made in the Phillipines and perform very well for their cost.
 
1899 said:
I'm just saying that NAA may be better off with a different scope. But the best way to find out is for him to try it out at 15x in various lighting conditions.
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I've got an older B&L Elite 3000 5-15x50mmAO on another rifle [a Rem 700 in .264 Win Mag] but I really don't care for the 50mm objective lenses. I've never felt the need for anything larger than a 40mm objective. [This B&L with the 50mm was a good deal]....... I'm thinking that a 5-15x40mmAO would be more than fine for my purposes. I'm mostly shooting off the bench at paper at 100 yards on relatively good weather days.

What I'm after in this thread is anyone who has experience with the new Legend series in 5-15x40mmAO mil-dot scopes. Are they relatively good value for the money. [Yes, I know they aren't an Elite 4200 or a Leupold VX-III... and yes, I know "you get what you pay for"...]

Regards, NAA.
 
A-zone said:
I've got one of these (5x-15x Legend) scopes on a .221 Fireball that I use for gophers. The scope is quite decent in terms of clarity and function. I don't use the elevation adjustments once its sighted in, so I can't comment on the repeatability of its adjustments. It does hold its zero, though.

These scopes are apparently made in the Phillipines and perform very well for their cost.
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Bingo!!! ;)
 
I'm curious about these as well. I'm looking for something in the 14x-16x range. I'm leaning towards the weaver K15 though as I find with variables they sit on the highest power setting all the time anyway.......
 
Hitzy said:
I'm curious about these as well. I'm looking for something in the 14x-16x range. I'm leaning towards the weaver K15 though as I find with variables they sit on the highest power setting all the time anyway.......
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I've got a Leupold VX-II 6-18x40mmAO and two Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x40mmAO's [mounted on other target rifles], but I'm interested to see how this Legend 5-15x40mmAO mil-dot would perform on a 24" medium heavy barrel rifle in 7mm-08. Guess the only way to find out is to order one from Wholesale Sports at $220 & that's probably what I'm going to do... :D
 
Just ordered a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40mm Mil-Dot from Wholesale Sports yesterday...

Should have it in a week or so. Maybe get out with it over the Christmas break. Will post a 'range report' when I get a chance... ;)
 
I have a 5-15 mildot on my 10-22, it seems to be okay. This spring when it warms up a bit I may move it over to my 6BR and try it out for POI hold. It is very similar as the Elite 3200 5-15. In actuality, the AO and the power ring are actually smoother on the Legend over the 3200.


Calvin
 
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a friend of mine has a 5to15x40 elite 3200.he has problems already with it.this will be the second time it will be going in for warranty work.i personally would buy a 3000 series or the 4000 series .from what i have seen and heard they are a much better built scope.
 
I own the legend in 5-15x40. It is a great scope for bench shooting and daytime varmint shooting. Do not expect this scope to perform in low light conditions. Please see AP'S post above as he actually knows what he is talking about when he explains why this scope will not function on high power in low light. I am so dissatisifed that I have purchased a leupold vx 11 3x9x40 so that I can actually hunt whitetail ethically. With a few minutes of legal light left it does not sit well with me that I have to peek around the scope to see if it is actually a deer that I am looking at. This however is only my opinion and what the hell do I know?
 
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sdwatt said:
I own the legend in 5-15x40. It is a great scope for bench shooting and daytime varmint shooting. Do not expect this scope to perform in low light conditions. Please see AP'S post above as he actually knows what he is talking about when he explains why this scope will not function on high power in low light. I am so dissatisifed that I have purchased a leupold vx 11 3x9x40 so that I can actually hunt whitetail ethically. With a few minutes of legal light left it does not sit well with me that I have to peek around the scope to see if it is actually a deer that I am looking at. This however is only my opinion and what the hell do I know?
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My Legend 5-15x40mmAO mil-dot scope arrived from Wholesale Sports in less than a week...:) My intended use will be daytime target shooting. I'm not concerned about the low-light issue. I have other scopes I can use if I want to 'hunt' with... Will be interesting to put this scope thru it's paces. Should get it mounted this week but won't get to the range with it before Christmas... :(
 
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Hi, I use nothing but Bushnell scopes. I have two of the Legend 5-15x40 Mildots. They are a good working scope, nothing fancy or anything that would make you think "Oh my !!!"

I did however purchase the Elite 4200 Series 6-24x40 Mildot afterwards and I must say, you do get what you pay for. The 4200 series is leaps above the Legend.

The Legend in my opinion is a great barnyard and gopher pasture scope, but if you require something that requires a little more surgical performance, go with the 4200 series.

Arch:)
 
I have one on my .223 I don't use the mildots the way they are actually supposed to be used, but the way they work out for me is great. The white box Winchester 55 gr softpoints hit about 2" high at 100m, dead on at 200 m and when I use the next mildot down, dead on at 300m. Pretty much perfect for blowing up gophers or whacking coyotes. I've never really used it in a low light situation, but it's been just fine for me.
 
Legend 5X15

I too own 2 of these and it was realised when bought that they were not 6-900$ glass.
I have one on a 452 22 Mag and another now on a 10/22.
Shooting gophers this year they were excelent for the intended use.
For the price great performers.
Also have a 3200 7x21 on my 17 Rem and am a little disapointed in this glass.
Nothing I can point too but just not for me.
Have had a Elite 4200 6–24 x 40mm and found it a little heavy but great scope.
Now the 24x Lupie on the 22-250 at 32 year of age is still just great.
 
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