kombi1976 said:
Dosing said:
BIGREDD said:
Yeah... a very good point is coming clear in this thread... cheap just isn't good value if it breaks.... a lifetime warranty is useless 600 miles away on a one week hunt :!:
Just reinforcing how right BIGREDD is on this. I hated listening to people whine about crap they bought, took out for a once in a lifetime hunt, only for it to break. Then you see the Tasco scope, on the Rem auto loader, mounted in Weaver's cheapest rings.....
I see your points but unfortunately some of us don't have the money to buy the best stuff for the job and so have to make do. :|
I have 2 Tasco scopes; a World Class .22 6x40 on my Anschutz .22lr and a World Class MAG IV 3-12x40AO on my bubba'd k98.
They do the job.
Would I like a Burris, Leupold or Zeiss? :shock:
You're bloody right I would but it's unlikely to happen soon. :roll:
And for the record, Tasco's customer service here in Oz is without fault.
You are right Kombi, many people cant afford better scopes than what they are using,but,generally speaking,Most guys(at least in my neck of the woods)can.
I talkin about the guy that plays pick up hockey (usually no hell),but he's got a ####in $190 composite hockey stick and $480 pair af skates.
What has he got fixed to the top of his shiny $1000 Browning Bar?.....Thats right! an $89 bushnell that he bought a Wal-mart.(and fixed poorly I might add) Is he gonna play pro hockey? ...Not likely. :roll:
Same guy has a $1400 set of Taylor made golf clubs,but its not likely he will ever even come close to par even at a lousy course where he pays 45 bucks for round of golf. :roll:
These guys are the NORM not the exception(at least in my experience)I KNOW these guys (and I'm not refering to anyone here on this thread)and they think I am the ####ing lunatic cause I spent 7-9 hundred on a scope!
#### ,even $300 for a fixed 4x, and they say" WHAT"! :shock:
I'm not saying that expensive scopes and MORE importantly mounts and rings will make you a better shot ,cause that is just nonsence,what I am saying, is that the quality of optics and again, more importantly, mounting systems that most of these people use, are almost, BOUND to fail.
I am no exception myself.I own seven Leupolds.Leupolds arent the best thing out there and I know that if I thinned my small herd of rifles out I could without a doubt buy a couple of higher end models to properly attach to the remaining ones.Can and will a Leupold fail? Sure, and so can a Ziess or what have you,but you dont see it in the numbers that the walmart specials do.I have never had a Leupold that I have purchased NEW, fail,but that doesnt mean they wont,and if one does the problem is addressed quickly(at least here in Canada)
I am fortunate enough in that I have a farmer neighbor who allows me to target shoot in a pit just up the road from my place.He doesnt mind if I drag afew friends/co-workers in for a shoot the odd time.So around this time of the year I have guys asking to come out for a shoot.
These guys say stuff like,"just wanna make sure my 270 is still dialed in for the moose hunt,it shouldnt take long,just afew shots".I WISH :shock: .Shotgun patterns off the bags are the norm. NOW, when they are having trouble and look to me for suggestions,I say "attach treble hooks to that POS and go troll for Pike or if you dont want to turn it into a lure, at least get some quality mounts and rings."Very rarely do I ever suspect the rifle is the culprit.Its almost always the scope and or mounts.
Now Chilly bought the best Tasco money could buy and is not getting treated the way I know Leupold treated me(at least)He's getting the business,as they say.You live and learn.
You (judging by some pics I have seen) are quite an adept hunter of Roos and such , obviously know your equipment, practise quite a little bit and if your stuff is workin for you that is great.When it screws up I'm sure you address the problem.I'm SURE your not content with a 10 inch group at 100yds,off bags.However the fact remains that a good percentage of the people I have seen, are.
Now having said all that crap, when I see a game animal I start to shake with excitement ,and couldnt hit the water if I fell out of a boat,(at least off hand),but at least I cant blame the equipment,only myself if something goes wrong.(I usually will go out of my way for a stump or tree to help,or use a bi-pod)
I think we owe it to these animals to make sure they are taken as cleanly as possible.God knows I have screwed that up more than once aswell.
Sorry I may have gotten off subject a bit.I guess its all an ethics thing.
Again Sorry about the rant, but I think MOST of us could afford, at least, a little better.