Bushnell vrs Leupold

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I want to state firstly that I am an engineer in manufacturing enviornment. I also own Bushnell and Leupold scopes. Both for over 15 years. I have never had any issues with either manufacturer. My bushnells are made in Japan. IMO you cannot get any better quality than Japanese quality. Japanese workmanship is second to NONE. As a prof. eng. If you are going to buy a leupold you can buy any one of their line of products. If you buy a bushnell buy an elite series they are all made in Japan.

IMO you cannot go wrong with an elite series scope or any leupold!

I can tell you that japanese people take great pride in thier workmanship. I can also tell you I have seen some god forseen lazy bumbs in north american manufacturing. I have no exp. in the leupold manufacturing facility.

Moral of this rant...buy japaneese bushnells if bushnell is your choice!

GM
 
IMO you cannot get any better quality than Japanese quality. Japanese workmanship is second to NONE.
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Where optics are concerned,the Japanese are still trying to catch up with Zeiss,Swarovski,Leica,Kahles and Schmidt&Bender.
 
Well - I would buy a Leupold 1st and a B&L Elite 2nd. I fell down a shale slide in Montana Elk hunting with my Sako 338 with a Leupold VX III on top of it and when we (me & the rifle) got to the bottom all 3 of us - me, the rifle, the scope were scuffed up pretty good - guess what - that was over 15 years ago and that scope is still dead on and I didnt adjust it one turn - and still has perfect optics (obviously better optics are now available) and yes - some of the EU stuff is very good but extremely expensive. For my money you know what I am buying.....
Martin
 
All Leupold scopes are made in U.S.A.
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Assembled in the U.S.A.,but with imported lenses.

some of the EU stuff is very good but extremely expensive.
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A Zeiss conquest 3x9x40 is comparable in price to the VX3 3.5x10x40.
My Kahles Helia CT was $250 more than a comparable VX3,so wouldn't that make the VX3 "extremely expensive" as well?
 
stubblejumper said:
Assembled in the U.S.A.,but with imported lenses.



A Zeiss conquest 3x9x40 is comparable in price to the VX3 3.5x10x40.
My Kahles Helia CT was $250 more than a comparable VX3,so wouldn't that make the VX3 "extremely expensive" as well?
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Isn't the Zeiss Conquest assembled in the USA, good old American quality just like Leupold.
 
There is a Japanese brand of bino and spotting scope called Kowa will give any of those you mentioned a serious run for their money. FS
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Their optics are good,but I prefer the German and Austrian products.And Kowa doesn't make riflescopes.

Isn't the Zeiss Conquest assembled in the USA, good old American quality just like Leupold.
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Right you are.Except the Conquest doesn't use Asian lenses.
 
Another vote for Leupold. None of the others can compare with their warranty. The Zeiss Conquest is very nice, but who or where is the warranty work done?
 
stubblejumper said:
Where optics are concerned,the Japanese are still trying to catch up with Zeiss,Swarovski,Leica,Kahles and Schmidt&Bender.
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Is it not true that the best cameras are from japan, best electronics are from Japan, best cars are from Japan ( some of us may not want to hear this but this [automotive] is my strong point in my carreer). Anyways ...what I am getting at I find it hard that they cannot have a peice of glass that us north americans have.

Japan has NO natural resources, they have depleated them all with their population. With no natural recources the only way they can have an economy is manufacturing. Therfore they have to make #### better than anywhere else on earth or the foundation of there economy will collapse. They don't have anything else to fall back on like north america...no trees, no mining, pritty much no....NOTHING! except manufacturing.

I KNOW FOR A FACT japaneese manufacturing is better than N.A. manufacturing. As for optics I have no first hand knowledge of optics. I do however know that it is a peice of glass.

I love my leupolds, I love my elites (made in Japan) although I did an optics test with 8 scopes before.....where I couldn't see what scope I am looking through. The top pick of mine was the optic of a cheaper scope than my scopes so these differences in the peices of glass IMO are not as important as the quality of parts and how it was made and will be serviced. Luckily I haven't had to deal with either manufacturer, and thats the way I like it!

GM
 
I agree the Japanese do manufacture to high standards they still follow the Demming philosophy of manufacturing, you know the one that the U.S used to follow after WWII, until they adopted the Sam Walton principles:puke:
 
GeorgeMurphy said:
I KNOW FOR A FACT japaneese manufacturing is better than N.A. manufacturing. As for optics I have no first hand knowledge of optics. I do however know that it is a peice of glass.



GM
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There is a difference between a piece of glass and a rifle-sight, a distinction that seems to have missed Bushnell and you. The Americans and Europeans seem to get it.
 
Is it not true that the best cameras are from japan,
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Leica and Carl Zeiss are two of the top lens manufacturers.
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/bestcameralensbrand.html

If the Japanese made the best lenses,why would a Japanese company like Sony equip their best camcorders with Carl Zeiss lenses?Why would Sony not deal with a Japanese supplier if they could supply an equivalent product?See the link below.

http://www.zeiss.com/C1256A770030BCE0/WebViewAllE/FEDF99BF5EAC8E8CC125759900259715

best electronics are from Japan, best cars are from Japan ( some of us may not want to hear this but this [automotive] is my strong point in my carreer).
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Even if those statement were true,how are they related to optics?
My statement was:
Where optics are concerned,the Japanese are still trying to catch up with Zeiss,Swarovski,Leica,Kahles and Schmidt&Bender.
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