But I don't want to use a scope anymore...

Calum said:
This usually means a trip to a gun$mith to install iron sights. :rolleyes:
Nice some of you are made of money but I'm not, so I would just like to see a few more options out there.

I mean what ever happened to buying a complete rifle? Buy ammo and go?

Now a days one spends almost a grand on a rifle then they get walked over to get a second raping at the scope counter. :rolleyes:
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There are plenty of options if you want factory iron sights on a rifle. Virtually all pump, autoloading and lever rifles come with sights. Ruger #1's and 375 RUger rifles come with sights.
 
If you do need to get irons to put on check out NECG, I sure liked them.
The Brno irons aren't bad and Rugers too.

Old school is getting phased out by plastic stocks and clean barrels. I prefer the irons on the rifle too.
 
Gatehouse said:
There are plenty of options if you want factory iron sights on a rifle. Virtually all pump, autoloading and lever rifles come with sights. Ruger #1's and 375 RUger rifles come with sights.
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Sorry I don't get out much these days, and when I do most of the stores I go to just have rifles that need scopes. :redface: :D
 
Calum,
I hear what your saying and think you have a point. I'm sure it should not add $200 plus dollars to the cost of every gun to include iron sights.
Thats another reason I like my 7600's. Rem seem to use the same front sights on almost everything from 22s up. So it probably only adds about $11.95 per gun. My scopes are mounted on quick release bases so I can use my irons if I need to.
But as has been said factory irons are not generally the best and if I was going to live without a scope I'd probably install a peep.

I am currently considering purchasing a CZ 527 carbine in 223. Iron sights. :dancingbanana:
 
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i agree to having iron sights, i recently made a post about who prefers iron to scopes, remarkably alot like the iron as do I. I still use a scope but feel better when there's iron if the scope fails...
 
My iron sighted rifles...a mix of SAKO factory apertures, Lyman 57, Lyman 48, Williams aperture (cobbled to fit the front mount screws on a Model 7) and Brownings factory open sights....which I still think are the nicest 'open' sights I've used.

Lyman 57s still trade for around $100, 48s for close to twice that, SAKO factory apertures for around $75 (which is very good value) and Williams for something less. Front ramps are not that hard to put on. Corlanes, for example, epoxies them on! I have one epoxied on a Husqvarna; it's been there for years, and suffered some serious knocks and extreme temperatures without any sign of failure.
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Iron sites vs not...

Vimy Ridge said:
I'm in the pro-irons group!
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I prefer a clean rifle, no iron sites, with scope. But I do have a couple sporting rifles that have iron sites & scopes: BSA P17 .30-06, Win 70XTR .30-06, and Ruger 77 MkII 7.62x39mm [previous owner actually paid to have iron sites put on this rifle as it came from the factory with a clean barrel]. Took the iron sites off my Rem 788 carbine 7mm-08 when I installed a scope with a 42mm bell and the rear site was in the way. Looks way better without the sites on it.

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NAA.
 
Which ones would you put on a Savage 24 30-30 / 20 gauge

Which iron sights would you suggest for snap shooting whitetails, close range. Why?
 
rommelrommel said:
The obvious superiority of optics of some sort is why there are less and less iron sights on guns from the factory.
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Or a lack of skills in the recent generation of hunters.



Ruffie said:
Which iron sights would you suggest for snap shooting whitetails, close range. Why?
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I have a Williams aperture on my Win94 30/30, and it totally rejuvenated the rifle for me, about all I would add now is a Williams firesight on the front for times of overcast weather and walking through our brush.
 
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Calum said:
Or a lack of skills in the recent generation of hunters.
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Not entirely so.... my great uncle, who passed in 2000, was a 6 year WWII vet who fought with the PPCLI in Europe. Grew up hunting on Salt Spring Island and was well known as a superb shot. When he came home from the war he brought a K98 8mm Mauser as a war trophy intending on making that his new hunting rifle. When he found a serious lack of ammo locally for it he traded it for a 1910 vintage Savage 99 .30-30 rifle with iron sites. Took him into the 70's hunting with that rifle, iron sites only.
Then when he found that his eye sight wasn't what it once was he went to a Rem 700 ADL in .30-06 that had iron sites but he had a steel K4 Weaver mounted in tip-off rings, thinking he could still go to the iron sites in a pinch. He confessed that he never did use the iron sites again preferring the scope instead.

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At the range, I prefer iron sights out to 200m. It's just more fun. A great rifle will have great sights (I love the jungle carbine irons, ya just can't improve on them!) iron or glass, but in a life or death situation, or hunting in the middle of no-where, I'd like to have irons to fall back on.
 
Calum said:
Or a lack of skills in the recent generation of hunters.
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Ok old fart :p

An aimpoint is better than irons 99 times out of 100, period. Single focal plane aiming is obviously easier. All things being equal easier means more hits, and better hits. Less lost game. There's a reason that the military can't get enough Elcans, ACOGs, Aimpoints, etc. They're just flat out better than irons, especially for CQB which actually has a lot in common with deep woods whitetail hunting in terms of shot presentation.
 
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