Butler Creek 25/22 clips

[Plinky]

I now have 6 of the Butler Creek Steel Lips. Every one of them jammed occasionally until i had put 100-150 rounds through them. If you're willing to struggle through that break-in period, you'll be rewarded with a 25 round magazine that is just as reliable as the 10 round Ruger. At least that has been my experience x6. Good Luck!

While I am extremely new to the hobby, I too am beginning to think this is the case with magazines . . . at least with the 10/22, even including the original 10 round rotary. The first few fully loaded mags of HC3R and the 10 rounder both had many fail to feed problems, often with the first round out of a full mag. But after running a few hundred rounds through them, they have become very reliable, and I get more duds (chambers properly, but doesn't fire when struck by the pin), and loosely set bullets in the casing that I don't feel comfortable firing than I do fail to feed due to the mag issues.

Just a guess but it could be a combo of both wearing edges of pieces, as well as wax deposition from the ammo.

 

[j_06]

How do you suggest I know to look for the 7 references to the differences to between clips & mags.. I dont see them stickied, and yep I probably watch way too many action flicks.
Being a beginner doesn't make me a troll, anymore that you are ignorant. Although from your HIGHLY educational post, I wonder..

He meant you made the 7 references to clips lol, but not a f..k given by me. Good advice here to get your plastic semi automatic baby killing rifle feeding cartridge storing device functioning. Break her in

 

[BrotherRockeye]

IF you ladies want to get technical , how about educating me, instead of trying to make yourself look stupid.. You are doing a fantastic job so far in looking like a couple of donkey's

here you go.

no I didn't read the whole thread

 

[tipper]

I seemed to have more issues with the american eagle ammo jamming in the butler 25, I here cci is the best but i'm not wasting money on it. Been having pretty good luck with the remington hollow points that come in a bucket and are reasonably priced.

 

[TRaTSeRiF]

What about Winchester stuff? Haven't taken my baby out to play yet and would like to have an idea before taking the mags out to play

 

[soulchaser]

Mags need to be worked in.

I had some issues with the BC steel lips until I had run a few hundred rounds through them. All eight function great now.

Same with Glock mags I used to have. I had issues gettin 8 rounds into them nevermind the 10 they held until the spring got worked in a bit.

 

[Paul Morrison]

I have 4 BC mags, 3 steel, one plastic lipped.

They require working in, just keep shooting them. Loading them 20 rounds as opposed to 25 will help during break in, as will hand loading them into the magazine rather than using the speedloader, which can sometimes not seat them all the way to the back. The bolt and the lips need to get aligned with each other and 200-300 rounds ought to do it. Loading them with 20 and storing them that way for a week might help too.

 

[Pantharen]

Probably because they don't like the ammo your trying use a round nose style and quality like Cci and you will be fine

First Round through was a round nose CCI Stinger, and it was the first to jam. when I got the Ruger, I was given a box of 50 CCI, and 350 rounds of Remington Thunderbolt, and I have 2800 rounds of

I have found that BC Steel Lips need to have a couple of full magazine loads run through them before they start to feed reliably.

They also do not last forever. With a lot of use the plastic body will crack and the steel lips will get wobbly. I fixed mine with epoxy.

OP, the guys were ragging on you because the correct term for a device that holds and feeds ammunition in a firearm is called a magazine (they can be fixed to the firearm or detachable).

Clips are used to hold cartridges and to feed them quickly into the magazines of firearms. Stripper clips used in such iconic rifles such as the LE SMLE, Mauser K98 and SKS simply feed the cartridges into the magazine. "En bloc" clips are actually placed into the "magazine" or magazine well of the rifle and are left in place while the rifle is fired and generally eject when the last round is fired.

Uninformed anti gun writers and politicians often misuse the term "clip" hence the reaction to the term "clip" in a pro firearm rights forum such as this.

WAY too Many movies call a magazine a Clip, unless it is a realistic war movie.. I didn't expect the plastic to last a long time.. Can I get metal 25 round mags??

here you go.

no I didn't read the whole thread

Thank you Learning good things, is always a good thing.. No one will learn the correct terminology from people who aren't willing to contribute intelligent responses.

 

[geologist]

Pantharen

Don't take the ragging seriously.

Many topics or comments here will result in almost instantaneous ragging. They include: bear defense, CRF versus pushfeed, Chinese made firearms are good/bad/neutral, you should only buy cheap/expensive optics, the police are good/anti-gun, telescopic sights on lever action rifles (no matter which side you post on, someone will call you an idiot) etc.

 

[kb007]

+1 on a little graphite spray in the mags to lube them. I have 8 BC steel lips, they were all a pia at first. Shot in some graphite and kept them full and they seem to have "broken in" quite nicely. I was out yesterday with my SR-22 and at least 6 differnet boxes of ammo looking to see if any were more reliable (well, truly I was just shoting a bunch of stuff I had used before) and all of it ran perfectly to my surprise. 1 FTF out of prolly 600 rounds. Seems the BC mags were running well. Ran thru CCI, Federal (both rn lead) Win wildcat (lead RN), Win 555 (copper hp), Rem golden bucket (plated HP and Win Dynapoint. Up to now I've been sort of hoarding the Win Dynapoint as it seems to run thru the SR-22 best (and it works well in the wife's buckmark as well).

Sounds like you have the same thing going on, give 'em some lube and some time.

 

[unlisted.handle]

I have a couple of 25 round Steel Lips and I have never had a Failure to load, eject, fire or any other problems with them. I love the way they snap together for 50 rounds.

 

[Pantharen]

Pantharen

Don't take the ragging seriously.

Many topics or comments here will result in almost instantaneous ragging. They include: bear defense, CRF versus pushfeed, Chinese made firearms are good/bad/neutral, you should only buy cheap/expensive optics, the police are good/anti-gun, telescopic sights on lever action rifles (no matter which side you post on, someone will call you an idiot) etc.

There is always going to be someone who has a bug up his ass, and wants to make it known that he is a royal jackass.. BUT When a "newbie" such as myself is asking a question (and it is bluntly obvious, that the question is from a newbie) it is a really good way to scare off the new people, by being a jackass.. Now I'm not scared off easy, and if this was a couple of years ago, I would have made myself out to look like a trouble maker, by cursing and swearing, and making a HUGE deal out of nothing.. Google my nickname if you want to see my reputation, it isn't very good.. But that was then, and this is now.

 

[Pantharen]

I have a couple of 25 round Steel Lips and I have never had a Failure to load, eject, fire or any other problems with them. I love the way they snap together for 50 rounds.

Snap together for 50? please explain??

 

[little_airwolf]

Snap together for 50? please explain??

If you don't know, most BC mags fit together to make a jungle style 25/25 flip mag = 50 rounds.
Ironically the bx25x2 is what they become but not prohibited unlike the ruger mags.
Still waiting for my second appeal letter from CBSA.

 

[JBD]

+ 2 on the graphite it worked for me.

 

[the spank]

I just bought one of these magazines on Friday after work for a brand new 10/22 I purchased the weekend before. So I am reading this thread today at home and since I live where I can shoot from my deck I thought maybe I should try it out. I loaded the magazine with Winchester 40 grain copper jacketed HP round nose bullets, stepped out the side door rifle in hand, slid the mag into the rifle, cocked it and took aim at the fence post out back and let fly as fast as I could. Dumped all 25 rounds without a hiccup, guess I got a good one?!

 

[soulchaser]

Snap together for 50? please explain??

If you'll notice on one side are two round nubs, and on the other side are two round holes.

If you have two mags, snap the nubs of one into the holes of the other (one mag will be upside down)

Voila! 50 rounds at your finger tips.

Fire off 25, pull, flip, insert and fire off 25 more.

 

[abbynormal]

Ok - so lets put this Clip vs. Mag issue to rest - at least for this thread ...

This is a (stripper) clip - just a rail (metal or plastic) that holds your rounds.


Here's a hell of a lot of Stripper Clips


And here is a magazine (mag) - that just happens to be inserted into my SG 553-SP


Rather than load your magazine one round at a time - the charged Stripper clip is held against the opening of the magazine - and the rounds pushed in. The entire magazine can be charged in about 1 second effortlessly.
Some Milsurp rifles have an internal magazine, thus the charged stripper clip is held against the rifle itself - and the rounds pushed in.

If you type "Stripper Clips" into into the search function of YouTube - there are a few good demonstrations of charging magazines using stripper clips.

Hope this clears things up ...

Abby

 

[Green Skull]

While I am extremely new to the hobby, I too am beginning to think this is the case with magazines . . . at least with the 10/22, even including the original 10 round rotary. The first few fully loaded mags of HC3R and the 10 rounder both had many fail to feed problems, often with the first round out of a full mag. But after running a few hundred rounds through them, they have become very reliable, and I get more duds (chambers properly, but doesn't fire when struck by the pin), and loosely set bullets in the casing that I don't feel comfortable firing than I do fail to feed due to the mag issues.

Just a guess but it could be a combo of both wearing edges of pieces, as well as wax deposition from the ammo.

I have 2 of the hc3r mags and I have yet to have any issues. Do you do the alignment check after you load it?

 

[baD mR fRosTy]

OP, I have had some luck with new 25 round mags over the years by "excercising" the spring, e.g. fully loading the mag and leaving it for a couple days.
Separate from the firearm, of course.
This works especially well, IMO, with those trouble-some aa922 mags for the 10/22, which I have in a Nomad stock.