Buy Canadian AR

I thought it was NEA too. To be fair, I have an NEA barrel waiting for my in-the-mail CQ-4, so I will have bought Chinese-Canadian. A politically correct, multicultural AR. If I bought pink furniture for it, I could take Justin to the range for a photo op.
 
i picked up a colt Canada 15.7 upper yesterday.i heard it was a bit difficult to put on my hbar so i ordered a complete sa20.should have it soon.anyone here using these ,any thoughts
 
put my new upper on my hbar,no front pin
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Just think we should support our Canadian manufacturing of AR stuff.
Again this is just my opinion.

PS I don't hate anyone I just want to support Canada!
I agree, but it is hard to do so when prices are not competitive, quality is not on par for the same amount of money and many times it is just simply not made by anyone in canada.
 
I wanted a Colt Canada for years and it finally happened. Excited as a kid on Christmas until I saw the price. I would recommend these even priced a little higher but I feel CC really screwed up the civ sales to date.

The guns were priced high in comparison to KAC despite being in Canada. There was a considerable price drop shortly after the release screwing the first buyers over. Slap in the face.

I don't expect a LE/MIL discount but if you are going to market them for us and offer one then do it from the beginning. Many service members purchased them shortly after there was a LE/MIL which was huge discount. Another slap in the face.

The have been mentioned about warrently information some time ago about registration on the site and still nothing. There was mention about CC Hats and Clothing etc coming out shortly and still nothing...... I am seeing a trend here.

The prices of the IUR rail cover and the green furniture is outrageous.

I was really surprized to see the high end CC upper being sold on a entry level lower receiver. I don't think you will see a company like KAC/Noveske doing something like that.
 
The guns were priced high in comparison to KAC despite being in Canada. There was a considerable price drop shortly after the release screwing the first buyers over. Slap in the face.

I don't expect a LE/MIL discount but if you are going to market them for us and offer one then do it from the beginning. Many service members purchased them shortly after there was a LE/MIL which was huge discount. Another slap in the face.
yep, key reasons why I will not buy, also the colt bankruptcy thing.
 
They aren't cheap but if you consider the us exchange now and what a Colt LE6920 costs it's not that bad. This was cheaper than my golf clubs lol
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yep, key reasons why I will not buy, also the colt bankruptcy thing.

The bankruptcy issue is Colt USA not Colt Canada. People must remember, the whole consumer market is an entirely new field for Colt Canada. There are bound to be roadbumps when developing a new market. Just be thankful we now have the best AR15 available... and it's all Canadian.
 
I'm all for getting a good deal don't get me wrong but if we don't buy from our manufacturers they will never be to get to a point where the can bring the prices down but they are still in the country and can lend support.
Okay, you first.

I've never quite understood this nationalistic need to have a Canadian-made {PRODUCT} -- and fill in the variable with whatever product you can't buy readily or economically from a Canadian producer.

I don't need a Canadian-made AR-15. On average our American cousins make them better, for the most part, then most other people can. Yeah, there are outliers like Colt Canada or ATRS, but I'm talking average. And on average the Chicoms make acceptable AR-15 knock-offs for cheaper. What does a Canadian-made AR give me? A little Canadian flag on the receiver at the cost of a lot more money?

I wish ATRS and other Canadian manufacturers the best and I hope one day they can ramp up production to the point that choosing a Canadian AR-15 isn't a novelty.
 
The bankruptcy issue is Colt USA not Colt Canada. People must remember, the whole consumer market is an entirely new field for Colt Canada. There are bound to be roadbumps when developing a new market. Just be thankful we now have the best AR15 available... and it's all Canadian.

That's no excuse. If they can deal with complex gov procurement (lol) they can deal with retail.
 
The bankruptcy issue is Colt USA not Colt Canada. People must remember, the whole consumer market is an entirely new field for Colt Canada. There are bound to be roadbumps when developing a new market. Just be thankful we now have the best AR15 available... and it's all Canadian.
I never specified which colt (USA or Canada) but they share the same name on their product.
 
Not exactly. Colt Firearms or Defence is not the same as Colt Canada. From my understanding, CC is a wholly independent corporate entity.
doesn't make a difference to me, still Colt

It is like GM and GM Canada, different entities yet both required bailouts from their respective governments.

If Colt Canadas recent bumble with the retail market is any indicator they will not be far behind. I won't even begin to touch on that horrible prototype that got posted here to long ago that cost a pile of $$$$$ in R&D
 
Okay, you first.

I've never quite understood this nationalistic need to have a Canadian-made {PRODUCT} -- and fill in the variable with whatever product you can't buy readily or economically from a Canadian producer.

I don't need a anadian-made AR-15. On average our American cousins make them better, for the most part, then most other people can. Yeah, there are outliers like Colt Canada or ATRS, but I'm talking average. And on average the Chicoms make acceptable AR-15 knock-offs for cheaper. What does a Canadian-made AR give me? A little Canadian flag on the receiver at the cost of a lot more money?

I wish ATRS and other Canadian manufacturers the best and I hope one day they can ramp up production to the point that choosing a Canadian AR-15 isn't a novelty.

Well for starters it's called macro economics :) and creates jobs in Canada that pay taxes and give us among the highest standards of living in the G20. If you really want to see what happens on a macro scale, look at the UK. People wanted cheaper textiles, guess what, they no longer have a textile industry. People wanted lower steel prices, oh, that's gone as well... the examples continue and continue. Canadians can develop a produce some of the very best products in the world, but most are caught up in the Walmart way of buying.

As for AR's, we have some truly great products (CC and ATRS come to mind), but many still have the Walmart mentality (Norinco) and mistakenly think the products are the "same" only cheaper.
 
doesn't make a difference to me, still Colt

It is like GM and GM Canada, different entities yet both required bailouts from their respective governments.

If Colt Canadas recent bumble with the retail market is any indicator they will not be far behind. I won't even begin to touch on that horrible prototype that got posted here to long ago that cost a pile of in R&D

If your referring to the DRDC SIPES project test bed, it is exactly that... A test bed. Not intended to be a production rifle in the news release form. Perhaps you have heard of the G11 of the late 70s and 80s? The original test bed versions were an abomination. Same with SIPES.

CC has never had experience with channel distribution and the launch of their rifles and carbines certainly demonstrated that. It doesn't detract from the fact it is one of the highest regarded combat rifles in the world today. I have never yet seen an SAS trooper, Royal Marine or Pathfinder with a Norinco.... but they and many other special forces sure do like the CC products ;)

Larry Vickers has even praised CC C8's and every Mall Commando knows if LV says it, it must be true. Now if they could only get Chris Costa to be their spokesman....
 
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Well for starters it's called macro economics :) and creates jobs in Canada that pay taxes and give us among the highest standards of living in the G20. If you really want to see what happens on a macro scale, look at the UK. People, wanted cheaper textiles, guess what, they no longer have a textile industry. People wanted lower steel prices, oh, that's gone as well... the examples continue and continue. Canadians can develop a produce some of the very best products in the world, but most are caught up in the Walmart way of buying.

As for AR's, we have some truly great products (CC and ATRS come to mind), but many still have the Walmart mentality (Norinco) and mistakenly think the products are the "same" only cheaper.

I think you missed my wider point: It's economic jingoism to believe that every country needs every industry and that internal industry should be supported to the exclusion those in other countries, what our American chums helpfully called "Buy American". Frank Zappa mocked it best when he stated, "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer."

Canadians can produce very nice AR-15s, beer and football teams -- not so much on the airline and nuclear weapon front -- but no one stops to ask whether there is a necessity and need for us to produce AR-15s (though I will hold the line on beer and the CFL). The fact that we have a grand total of two real manufacturers, one American owned while the other really just a start-up, speaks volumes to me.

Am I comparing a Norinco AR-15 to ATRS, CC or many American manufacturers? Of course not. What I am attempting to argue, and I must admit I was probably a little abstract before, I just question the need for the small Canadian firearms industry to blow their wad on AR-15s when they could be attempting something different.

Reading this I seem to be over the map...oh well, I wrote it, I'll stand by it.
 
The prices of the IUR rail cover and the green furniture is outrageous.

I was really surprized to see the high end CC upper being sold on a entry level lower receiver. I don't think you will see a company like KAC/Noveske doing something like that.

Were they? Because everything is sold out lol
I personally sold my green furniture months ago on the EE for 300$, sold in 15 mins.
If they would have sold them cheaper, then guys would have bough 5-6 of them and sold them with a large markup anyways.
I think that was the easiest (and more profitable) way to spread the joy.
Would like to point out that I would not have paid these prices myself, but I am a cheap bastard lol.

WRT the lowers, it had nothing to do with Colt Canada but the new distributor.

As a previous KAC owner, the fit and finish of my CC IUR is on par with a KAC, same with my lower (and 1K cheaper)
 
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