buying ammo as investment

I can't see it getting any cheaper. Metal is going down but powder and components are going up so there is a draw worst case but more likely a gain in price. Put it this way, you won't lose money, but you stand to make money for the next while. Non-military production of the food is not growing substantially so I don't see any major drops ahead
 
Most copper silver and non precious metals are the lowest in 11 years, I was hoping to see it reflected in lower costs for ammo once the dollar recovers..
 
madashell said:
Rrrrrrrright ..... hand your money over to a bank these days .. biggest crooks on the planet.
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That's true! You should never trust the Free Markets and the Banks. Considering how fragile the financial market is, it is not worth to put all your life saving into a (too big to fail) bank. Because of my South Asian heritage I prefer precious metals, vacant land and other hard assets etc. These things never loose their value and they cannot be manipulated by the banks and during hard times they actually increase in value.
 
Although I don't consider ammo to be a 'wealth investment', it is most certainly an 'asset investment' and it hinges on the "Buy it cheap.." axiom.

If you and I go to the range to blast away 100 rds of .45ACP and you bought it from CanAm a couple of years ago, you're pulling the trigger at about .35 a round.
If I just grabbed mine at my LGS before heading to the range, I'm pulling on about +/- .60 a round. (tax 'in' numbers).

If we both burn through a conservative 100 rds, you had your fun for $26.00 less than I did today. I call that a good investment.
*Obviously, my numbers are based on my own LGS's around London, Ontario. YMMV.
** Also, 'Value of the dollar' doesn't enter in my scenario, because I doubt very few of us have gotten commensurate pay raises each week as our dollar crashes.
 
I picked up a few dozen cases of Czech M43 5 or 6 years ago at less than a eighty bucks a case on a bulk deal. Wished I got a lot more and had not fired so much of it off.
 
fiddler said:
I picked up a few dozen cases of Czech M43 5 or 6 years ago at less than a eighty bucks a case on a bulk deal. Wished I got a lot more and had not fired so much of it off.
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That is incredible, good for you! Could someone offer an explanation for why that surplus was sold so cheaply 5 or 6 years ago?:confused:
Was there a situation that prevented it from being sold to certain countries with a lot of AK-47 use? Obviously it is not being
manufactured anymore because it is all decades old and must soon run out. Or are there still large warehouses full of it someplace?
 
Robert Nicholson said:
That is incredible, good for you! Could someone offer an explanation for why that surplus was sold so cheaply 5 or 6 years ago?:confused:
Was there a situation that prevented it from being sold to certain countries with a lot of AK-47 use? Obviously it is not being
manufactured anymore because it is all decades old and must soon run out. Or are there still large warehouses full of it someplace?
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Surplus is exactly that, Surplus. Also adding that dollar value exchanges going up and down, and restrictions to imports for many different reasons depending on the country of origin. Local inflation has also had an effect, after all what hasn't gone up?
 
anthony777 said:
so is buying ammo now a good investment?

seems like it's always going up...and it doesn't expire.
i hardly ever see good stuff up on ee, so should be easy to re sell.

or
because of the hording last year and the weak dollar are prices just temporarily high?
has ammo ever gone down over time in the past?

there is also the risk of the libs doing something weird.

i guess a good way to do it is to dollar cost avg each month.

i'm looking to buy
223, 308, 44 mag, 45 and 9.

thanks
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If you intend to re sell it, then you can call it an investment.
 
I have 'invested' in my own ability to shoot at the rate I please, well into the future. By investing in my ammo cache I've positioned my portfolio to ride out market fluctuations, supply shortfalls, political events in foreign countries, etc. None of this is for resale. Mostly surplus ammo, but some new commercial manufacture case lots purchased on sale, etc.

When I go out now and shoot a dollar worth of surplus 223 or 308 purchased in 2014, I get to shoot twice as much as if I bought the ammo this year since those calibers have doubled in cost. I intend some of the pile to last thru retirement, when limited income would otherwise reduce my ammo budget.
 
That's my approach too! Stacking it deep now so I can afford to shoot for life. Reloading components too! Plan to retire in about 5 to 10 years & hopefully won't need to buy any ammo ever again.
 
As an investment the surplus available today will never go down. Eventually it will dry up. Yes lots of countries currently use what is being sold but the key word is "surplus". Eventually there is no surplus. 20 years ago there was 'surplus' .303, 8mm mauser, 30/06, etc. Those of us that bought then and still have it can make a good return on that purchase. It was kind of interesting I am told that in the US when the .22 ammo shortage was at its height, a box of 50 .22's were treated as a currency and were used as barter goods
 
About six months or so ago, Canada Ammo had a "four cases for the price of three" sale. I dithered about what I would do with four cases
and only bought just one case at regular price. Since then, I have bought three more cases from Canada Ammo because I used up that
first case. And now prices have taken a big increase. Buying ammo as an investment in MY future shooting would have been a great idea!
 
Robert Nicholson said:
About six months or so ago, Canada Ammo had a "four cases for the price of three" sale. I dithered about what I would do with four cases
and only bought just one case at regular price. Since then, I have bought three more cases from Canada Ammo because I used up that
first case. And now prices have taken a big increase. Buying ammo as an investment in MY future shooting would have been a great idea!
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I totally agree!

Bullseye has the best deal on 9mm I can find
trade ex for .223

Anything cheaper out there?
 
minniehill2 said:
I totally agree!

Bullseye has the best deal on 9mm I can find
trade ex for .223

Anything cheaper out there?
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I see Bullseye has 1000 rounds of 9mm for about $300. TEC has 223 for $10 per box of 20. These both seem to be the going price for many dealers. Am I missing cheaper prices somewhere?

Edit: Tula Ammo (site sponsor as well) has 20 rounds of 223 for 8.99, that's 10% cheaper then TEC.

Edit #2: Tula Ammo has 9mm for $14 per box of 50 meaning $20 less than Bullseye and most of the other dealers.
 
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