Buying dies on a trip to the US

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Hello all - I promise I used the search button & did not find the answer.

I am off to the US of A for the weekend and was thinking of picking up dies for .223, 9mm, and .45. Just wanted to make sure that this was cool with the Americans and that I would not get into trouble without some sort of permit.

Any idea if it is fine to pick up dies and drive back?
 
This may have changed recently. I think I saw some threads in another section that mentioned dies and such aren't making it across the border (new DOS rules). I'll see if I can find it.
 
They aren't restricted.

If you have any doubt, you can double-check with State.

The purpose of a commodity jurisdiction (CJ) request is to determine whether an item or service is covered by the U.S. Munitions List (USML) and therefore subject to export controls administered by the U.S. Department of State pursuant to the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). If after reviewing the USML and other relevant parts of the ITAR, in particular ITAR §120.3 and §120.4, you are unsure of the export jurisdiction of an item or service, you should request a CJ determination.


http://pmddtc.state.gov/commodity_jurisdiction/index.html
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I had over $1,000 in press, dies, plates - you name it - brought over the border in two trips by my buddy who works in the US. No trouble at all - on the first trip the officer thought he left some tools in the trunk and never questioned the value - still, we made sure it was under $700 he was allowed to bring in.

If I wasn't 100% sure he'd have no trouble - I'd never ask for such a favor from a friend. Sooo, boldly bring whatever you want across the border - just leave components (bullets, primers, powder) on the other side... :D
 
On my last trip south to Grand Forks, I brought back bullets without any problems. When we were at the border I asked about powder and such. I was told at the border that a Canadian can bring upto 16 pound of powder and 5000 rnds of loaded ammo and 5000 primers back with them. Any other reloading equipment like dies, presses or scales are not an issue.

Cliff
 
Manitobahunter said:
On my last trip south to Grand Forks, I brought back bullets without any problems. When we were at the border I asked about powder and such. I was told at the border that a Canadian can bring upto 16 pound of powder and 5000 rnds of loaded ammo and 5000 primers back with them. Any other reloading equipment like dies, presses or scales are not an issue.

Cliff
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Well, here we go again....!

(1) Dies and reloading tools are tools, they are not subject to any import/export laws.

(2) Reloading components such as primers, bullets, brass are NOT allowed to be exported from the US without a US permit. When you purchase these in the US you are violationg US law and subject to fines, imprisonment and can be placed on a US no-enty list, they are serious about this and CGN has many threads about this. There is no Canadian law that prohibits entry of brass and bullets as long as you delcare them, this is an American law

(3) Many US places will not send stuff here becuase they do not want to try and figure out what is allowed and what is not allowed, others will only deal with you on the phone becuase their electronic inventory systems are not set up to determine which products are ok to export and which are not. The big places like Sinclair International are set up for this and will ship you dies, no problem
 
Manitobahunter said:
On my last trip south to Grand Forks, I brought back bullets without any problems. When we were at the border I asked about powder and such. I was told at the border that a Canadian can bring upto 16 pound of powder and 5000 rnds of loaded ammo and 5000 primers back with them. Any other reloading equipment like dies, presses or scales are not an issue.

Cliff
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f:P: I'd read Roberts post carefully if I were you.
 
roberti11 said:
Well, here we go again....!

(1) Dies and reloading tools are tools, they are not subject to any import/export laws.

(2) Reloading components such as primers, bullets, brass are NOT allowed to be exported from the US without a US permit. When you purchase these in the US you are violationg US law and subject to fines, imprisonment and can be placed on a US no-enty list, they are serious about this and CGN has many threads about this. There is no Canadian law that prohibits entry of brass and bullets as long as you delcare them, this is an American law

(3) Many US places will not send stuff here becuase they do not want to try and figure out what is allowed and what is not allowed, others will only deal with you on the phone becuase their electronic inventory systems are not set up to determine which products are ok to export and which are not. The big places like Sinclair International are set up for this and will ship you dies, no problem
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X2! Somebody needs to sticky this info; guys are giving themselves ulcers over nothing. Sad state of affairs caused by asshat politicians and bureaucrats.
 
Don't waste your time talking to the BATF as they are not on the same page as Homeland Security.The right hand knowith not what the left hand doith...............Harold.......and make it up as we go along
 
Manitobahunter said:
On my last trip south to Grand Forks, I brought back bullets without any problems. When we were at the border I asked about powder and such. I was told at the border that a Canadian can bring upto 16 pound of powder and 5000 rnds of loaded ammo and 5000 primers back with them. Any other reloading equipment like dies, presses or scales are not an issue.

Cliff
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There was a thread here about a year ago. A few guys were coming back into Manitoba from some gun show. They got snagged by the U.S. spooks about 10km from the border and got inspected. One of the guys had bought empty brass at the show. The spooks ripped their car apart and reamed them up and down. Eventually they let them go thank God.

A friend of mine brought back 1 lousy bag of empty brass. The CANADIAN border guys found it and ripped his truck apart. These would be the same border guys who told you it would be fine as long as you kept to the quantities listed. You might have gotten lucky, but I don't think I'll risk it.
 
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