Buying new sporting rifles

scott_r

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What do you guys usually do when it comes to rifles? Do you buy a rifle spur of the moment or do you do your research and know exactly what cal. make/model you want?
I always research the cal, look for a rifle to suite my needs and head straight to the forum and do some searching.

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My last hunting rifle I bought, I knew exactly what I wanted. The bugger was trying to track one down. I posted on the EE a number of times with no luck. Then one day, I walked into a local Gun Shop, and to my amazement, there sat the rifle that I had been looking for, for quite a while. My debit card was out of my wallet before I even picked up the .44 Ruger Carbine of my dreams. Turns out it came from the second year of production, with a serial # in the low 4000's, and in awesome shape to boot. Has a few more scratches on it now, but that rifle will go to the grave with me!

Any others had moderate research, I mostly knew that I was going to buy them when I went to the shop.
 
I always research too. Usually I have some idea of what I want, then find out some info, then buy later. I haven't bought one spur of the moment yet.
 
I do a bit of both. Usually I'll figure out either the rifle I like or else a calibre I like. If you're buying used, its just about finding what you like and being in the right place at the right time.

Last week I picked up a used stainless Sako 85 in 7mm-08. I've always liked the Sako's and the the 85's are a nice rifle. I was just keeping my eye open for a smaller calibre that I could use for deer or a day at the range. I was looking at the 260, 7mm-08, 280, etc. The Sako was in mint condition and it was obvious it was either rarely used or else well cared for.

My sales person at WSS was unable to give me any history on it but one of the other staff knew the guy who used to own it and he said it hasnt been shot much at all and to treat the gun as if it was new.

I took the gun apart for a cleaning and there wasnt even dust or dirt inside the plastic stock. The follower in the magazine still looked new. Not even a scratch from a cartridge rim on it. The barrel on my new $1100 vanguard I bought earlier this year was dirtier than this used rifle

I havent shot the gun yet. Unless it sprays bullets like a shotgun, I'm pretty happy with my purchase.
 
Usually put a lot of thought/research into what I buy.
My last purchase was spur of the moment and I regret it know. But since I've dropped the money and theres no way I'll be able to get it back, that gun is just going to sit in the safe and I'll see if I can't trade it off at one of the shows.
 
I always do research before i purchase as well. I'm spending quite a bit of money when i buy brand new and i like to get it right the first time. Unfortunately i've had to learn this the hard way.

I find more now than ever before that i'm researching everything before i buy and not just for guns, but for cars, houses, misc. toys, etc. I'm much happier that way and have found over the years that buying spontaneously, i always end up kicking myself in the ass because in the end it wasn't what i needed or really wanted in the first place.
 
When I picked up my Sako last week at Wholesale sports the one older and knowledgable guy I know behind the counter said to me something to the extent of "a registration card isnt a marriage liscense". If you dont like it. Sell it. Try something new.

Guns seem to hold their value pretty good so unless its a crazy calibre or niche type of gun, I'm sure someone will be interested in buying it.
 
I fall somewhere in between. Rifles are purchased with specific activity in mind and I'm rarely set on a specific cartridge or model. Spur of the moment doesn't happen unless the rifle falls within the range of those that have already attracted my attention.

What often happens on the spur of the moment is "trading up." I've owned a .223 plinking/walking around varmint rifle for years. It started with a used Remington Model 7, then upgraded to a CZ527, which was replaced by Browning Low Wall which was then replaced by a Tikka 595, then and eventually to a very sweet Sako Model 75. The CZ, Browning and the Sako were definitely spur of the moment purchases.
 
These days I am less concerned with a "deal" than getting exactly what I need/want:p.

Accordingly I may research a major purchase for some time and am prepared to wait for what I have decided on.
 
I have been thinking about a 45-70 for about a year and a half. my only problem was I wanted a guide gun but I like the pistol shaped buttstock.
I found a beautiful 1895SS model with a 22" barrel and I am completely happy with it.
 
Doing research convinced me I needed a .25 caliber, decided on a .257 Roberts or better the A.I. version. Went shopping, bought a rifle, dies, brass and bullets etc. I've always kept an eye out for a .338-06 as well. Wound up getting a couple of new guns. By the time I got home something amazing had happened along the way - they'd morphed themselves into a 7mm-08 Stevens and a shiny new Benelli 3 1/2 in semi-auto shotgun! So much for research. Was in P&D couple months ago - decided I needed a .204 coyote blaster. Same thing magically happened before I could get it home - it changed itself into a Tikka Deluxe .300 Win Mag complete w/ dies, bullets and brass. Was I ever surprised. Now I know I "need" a .22-250. Think I've narrowed it down to a couple of choices = probably get home and find a new .270WSM hiding in the back seat of the truck - or maybe a 375 H&H slipped it's way underneath the front seat. And that sums up my ability to research a particular rifle, decide on that one, and execute properly. Always an adventure - girlfriend says that if my head..........well, never mind what she says.:D
 
After being bit by the custom rifle bug it seems that there are very few "off the shelf rifles" that suit me. The last "off the shelf" rifle I bought was my Brno ZG-47, but I had the action bedded and cross bolted, the LOP cut to fit me, and finished off with a recoil pad. A NEC Ghost Ring and a post front sight was a big improvement over the factory sights.

When I buy a rifle now, it must be the answer to a particular problem. If I can ask the question, "What is it for?" and not get a specific answer, I pass. I don't have many holes in my inventory and I am not immediately intrigued by every new club that is marketed to the firearms community. I want most of my rifles to be able to fill more than a single role. My target rifle is fairly specific, but it is also a good ballistics laboratory.

There are a couple of holes though. I find that I don't have a good gas gun, but I'm not sure if I will trick out a Mini-14 or get a Fulton Armory NM M-14. I already load .308 and I want to try my hand at Service Rifle Match so I am leaning towards the M-14. Being a die hard bolt gun shooter, I find it difficult to make the transition, and when the resources are in place, I'm not sure if the gas gun won't get pushed back down the priority list.

I find that I want a big bore rifle, specifically a .460 G&A, (.460 Ultra) or perhaps a custom Ruger #1 in .500 NE. The trouble is I don't need one. I am unlikely to make another trip to Africa, and even if I did, a .375 is the best and most versatile choice for the one rifle client. At home my .375 is more than enough for bear work, and doubles as a fine big game hunting cartridge with as broad a range of bullets available as anyone could hope for. Thus, a big bore rifle is more of curiosity than a necessity.

Someday I would like to buy either a .25/06 or a .257 Weatherby. A pal of mine has proven to me that the .25/06 is a giant killer (with the right loads) and the flat trajectory, high degree of accuracy, and light recoil is attractive. In the same vein and given the excellent performance of light for caliber TSX bullets combined with the research done by GS Custom, I would like to give the .22X64 cartridge a try. The trouble here is that my custom M-7 .243 overlaps both the smaller and larger cartridges, diminishing the need for either.

It seems that I may need a full wood Mannlicher style rifle in a mild chambering. A 6.5X55 or a 7X57 would fit the bill perfectly. The action should be a CRF, the barrel should be a light contour 20"-21" but I prefer a single trigger to double set triggers. A ghost ring and post and/or a small fixed power scope seems right. This is the one that is the most difficult for me to justify. It is just something I want, but I can only picture myself needing a light recoiling, pretty rifle when I reach advanced years and am unable or unwilling to shoot either heavier or more powerful rifles. Additionally, the ZG-47 in .30/06 can be loaded to any level I want, and still provide enough accuracy to make any style of practical shooting interesting. I also have an excellent original 1908 Oberndorf Mauser in 7X57. While not particularly short, it is covered with wood, has mild recoil, and is accurate.

Finally I have a M-54 Winchester in .270 that is in need of a rebuild and a bare 98 Mauser action. These need to become viable rifles and they should, by rights, be the focus of my attention.
 
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