i was wondering if and how a canadian can buy a pistol in the states. a friend was in spokane recently and the employee at the gun shop there said that you only need a drivers licence to buy one. he said he was canadian and the employee said that it didn't matter. is this possible? if so, what are the proper procedures to go through to bring it back to canada, as the gun was alot cheaper to buy in the states. thanks.
buying pistol in the u.s.a.
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Well for starters, that employee can end up costing his employer their business. He is so far off base that he probably shouldn't be out in public unsupervised
...I would suggest visiting the CFC website and look at the section under importation. It will help to explain things a lot better. There are numerous hoops to jump through before the firearm can be imported into Canada.. I am sure some of the experts on the forum are itching to jump in on this so I will step back, but it is not a simple procedure and can be time consuming.. Do some research first. It'll save u more than money...
Cheers
dB
...I would suggest visiting the CFC website and look at the section under importation. It will help to explain things a lot better. There are numerous hoops to jump through before the firearm can be imported into Canada.. I am sure some of the experts on the forum are itching to jump in on this so I will step back, but it is not a simple procedure and can be time consuming.. Do some research first. It'll save u more than money...Cheers
dB
Okay folks I've done this recently
Here's how it went.
1. Went to the gun store in Buffalo, New York and paid for my handgun.
2. Came home and called the CFC with the details.
3. Got the registration in the mail 8 days later.
4. Had the guy from the gun store meet me at the border.
5. Got the gun and drove right into the customs desk at the Rainbow bridge.
6. Declared the gun an paid my duty...had to argue a bit that the extra magazine that was purchased seperatly was duty free as a gun part under $100 per NAFTA rules, argued for 3 minutes and got my way.
7. Drove home and put it in the vault.
8. Within 30 days I had to have it verified and a report sent in.
9. Really was pretty painless.....all things being equal.
Here's how it went.
1. Went to the gun store in Buffalo, New York and paid for my handgun.
2. Came home and called the CFC with the details.
3. Got the registration in the mail 8 days later.
4. Had the guy from the gun store meet me at the border.
5. Got the gun and drove right into the customs desk at the Rainbow bridge.
6. Declared the gun an paid my duty...had to argue a bit that the extra magazine that was purchased seperatly was duty free as a gun part under $100 per NAFTA rules, argued for 3 minutes and got my way.
7. Drove home and put it in the vault.
8. Within 30 days I had to have it verified and a report sent in.
9. Really was pretty painless.....all things being equal.
This comes up quite a bit. Take a look at Legalese and the FAQ's.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51554
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51554
note that stores that bring guns to the border /w out proper export certs are in contravention of US law, and as such discussing such matters would be against CGN rules.
*also if anything goes wrong /w the gun, you'd probably have to get it back in to the states for service...
its not always as clear cut as simply saving a few bucks, might end up costing you in the long run
*also if anything goes wrong /w the gun, you'd probably have to get it back in to the states for service...
its not always as clear cut as simply saving a few bucks, might end up costing you in the long run
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hr said:
This isn't directed at you HR but at the board because every time someone mentions export from the states he gets blasted by everyone, so far this thread is okay but we don't need thirty people jumping in telling their own versions of US export law, hell no one even knows if the $100 limit still exists...! Though your statement is correct to a degree, it gives the impression that this thread should be locked and deleted asap on the mere mentioning of a grey area.
If we can't discuss AMERICANS who don't follow THEIR OWN GUN LAWS then I guess we can't talk about other crime in the USA either then eh...? Or even crime in Canada? If I mention that there was a car stolen in my parkade last night am I breaking CGN's rules? Stealing cars is against the law isn't it? Um... draft dodging is against US law too right? I guess no one should mention the newspaper articles on the dodger who got arrested last week...?
The truth is on this board we should be allowed to discuss anything we want as long as we don't express INTENT to commit crime, thus implicating the admis of CGN.
Point in fact:
If I was to say "tommorow I am going to drive to the USA and smuggle back a whole load of gun parts and completely disregard US laws" well then I may be pushing the boundaries because I'm stating that I intend to break the law. Or similarily "this is how you convert your mini 14 to full auto _____"
BUT, if I was to say "there are lots of people who disregard the USA export laws and bring firearms related items out of the country without a permit every single day, and beyond that... they rarely ever get caught on the US side, gee, doesn't it seem like it's almost worthwhile to save the hundreds of dollars by taking the initiative to enter a grey area?" well then I'm simply making a statement or observation if you like. To censor my comment would be comparable to the actions of a police state, and I thought the Republik of Kanada fell in January...?
hey mopar guy, i'm sorry if my statement offended anyone.. it wasn't meant to .. more so just to let new members know about the rules not only of the board and also of us regulations. I don't want to see another fellow member (one of us) in trouble /w the us.
those of us that's been on the board long enough know all about BuffaloGunCentre, so i'm not going to talk about that.
those of us that's been on the board long enough know all about BuffaloGunCentre, so i'm not going to talk about that.
No problem HR, like I said it's not really your comment but the results that I figure are bound to come from this thread. There seems to be this stigma on the board associated with US laws and I just don't want to see another new guy get blasted as seems to happen a couple times a week in pistols/revolvers, legalase, and general firearms inquiries... just for asking a question. I also think people shouldn't be afraid to speak their opinions "within reason" on the board for fear of admin or more senior members coming down on them. We can't have "prohibited thoughts or opinions", we're free to think and do as we feel is right, even if that means disregarding a foreign countries ridiculous law, the only limit can be drawn when we may implicate otherwise innocent parties who are doing us all good by providing this board... then we should keep our mouths shut.
Buying a gun from the us is simple
1) get and fill out a import permit (they are free from the government)
2)find a exporter in the us (ther are a ton of them that do this all the time)
3) send your approved import permit to you exporter, they will need this to do there paper work
4) register you firearm with CFC
5) When you get your firearm (after you pay the taxes ) you must have it verified with in 30 days of it comming in to country.
That is it real easy.
Just did one last month.
1) get and fill out a import permit (they are free from the government)
2)find a exporter in the us (ther are a ton of them that do this all the time)
3) send your approved import permit to you exporter, they will need this to do there paper work
4) register you firearm with CFC
5) When you get your firearm (after you pay the taxes ) you must have it verified with in 30 days of it comming in to country.
That is it real easy.
Just did one last month.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
First, the guy at the store is full of cow puckey. It is a felony to sell guns, even in private purchase to a NIA on US soil.titleist said:
If the NIA has been resident for 90 days he can purchase with a CCW and US ID.
Be really careful of Washington. They have an unenforced and garbage statute that allows them to charge any alien with a class 3 felony if they possess a firearm in the State.
Last of all if you buy it, you don't want to bring it back. Way too much hassle! Leave it there in a bank deposit box or something and go visit it once in a while.
- Location
- Calgary, AB
If you must do it and add one more firearm to the registry, then yes an exporting ffl is what you need.Musky Hunter said:
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Freedom is what we all hope for so lets start by free speech on the board.
I know this is about handguns but the process is similar to what a friend of mine at work did, he imported a rifle a few months ago and it wasn't hard to do just took time once he found a place willing to do the paperwork on the USA side. All he did was pay the USA dealer for the rifle and get all the particulars on it, apply for an import license and pre-register the rifle with the CFC. Once he got the paperwork done on this end he mailed it all to the US dealer who got the export paperwork done down there, then the dealer mailed the rifle to my friend which went right through Customs since it was pre-registered, of course he had to pay gst and the $5 handling fee. The last thing was to have the rifle verified upon receiving it. Total cost for paperwork is $0, just time as I mentioned above.
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but lately the cost of shipping the firearm to canada is stupid. the only carrier the americans can use for international shipping is DHL. they charged me $315 for a 5 day service from salt lake to vancouver. and i HAD TO clear it through customs myself. next time i'll just pay questar.
