Buying Swiss Milsurp

Alex_Zues

Alex_Zues

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So I hear many many good things about swiss rifles chambered in 7.5x55. I'm concidering buying one, but which one is the question.

The k31 gets a lot of press for its accuracy and ease of use. I've heard they're easier to add sights/scopes to without too much drilling and tapping

The 1911 Long Rifle some say is more accurate because of the longer barrel.

I don't know much about the k11, other than it's shorter than the 1911, but not the same as a k31.
 
Alex_Zues said:
So I hear many many good things about swiss rifles chambered in 7.5x55. I'm concidering buying one, but which one is the question.

The k31 gets a lot of press for its accuracy and ease of use. I've heard they're easier to add sights/scopes to without too much drilling and tapping

The 1911 Long Rifle some say is more accurate because of the longer barrel.

I don't know much about the k11, other than it's shorter than the 1911, but not the same as a k31.
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The K31 has a stronger action and much updated over the earlier versions. It can shoot GP11 ammunition, which is the only kind you are likely to find for sale. Earlier guns that predate GP11 will require tailored (lighter) hand loads.

And most of the accessories that are available these days appear to be for the K31.

http://www.swissrifles.com/ammo/
 
Get yourself on to Swissrifles.com and find out all about it - Carlos is the main Canadian poster there. I look after the guys on VCRAI.com.

There is just SOOOOOOO much to find out.

The IG11 - the so-called longer infantry rifle, is sweeter to shoot, but has at least 30 years head-start in the barrel wear stakes. Not that this matters overly-much - they mostly show a remarkable level of accuracy that is probably better than any other milsurp gun ever made anywhere, unless you count the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. MOA is perfectly normal with GP11.

The K31 is a completely different animal to any of its predecessors, and will still amaze you even after more than thirty years of shooting - as it does me.

The milsurp GP11 ammunition is the best military surplus ammunition on the planet, bar none - and we use it over in Switzerland as 300m three-positional match grade stuff.

Swiss Products [mornin' Latigo] makes a range of clamp-on mounts for scopes or diopters, as well as a very effective clamp or screw-on muzzle brake - it's a kicker, BTW. Launching that 174gr bullet at over 2500 fps is not done without some level of commotion at both ends. There is a also an effective clamp-on bipod device. This stuff is all available from Brownells down below, but perhaps Carlos can advise where to get it from in Canada. For lefties, there is even a left-hand operating system for around the USD$200 mark - compare that with the price of the Swiss-made item at around eu450...

As for accessories for the K11/IG1900, there is a clamp-on scope mount in the course of preparation for this series of Schmidt-Rubin arms, but not the Model of 1889. Latigo advises us that THIS mount will go on the left-hand side of the receiver, and like the others, does not need tapping or drilling.

Privi Partizan make a 174gr cartridge in 7.5x55 Swiss - some like it and the brass is good for many reloads. Others buy it just for the brass, which is also the same brass as supplied to Graf's, and consider the round itself to be a wimp by comparsion with the real deal. In my Swiss guns it shoots between 250-280 fps slower than GP11.

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Alex_Zues said:
So I hear many many good things about swiss rifles chambered in 7.5x55. I'm concidering buying one, but which one is the question.

The k31 gets a lot of press for its accuracy and ease of use. I've heard they're easier to add sights/scopes to without too much drilling and tapping

The 1911 Long Rifle some say is more accurate because of the longer barrel.

I don't know much about the k11, other than it's shorter than the 1911, but not the same as a k31.
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May I ask what you hope to do with it?

Warning!!!
You should be aware that if you buy any one of the various models, you will most likely want all the others too.
 
You're probably right about that. I planned to use it mostly at the range for targets. My plan from what I've read online is to start with a 1911, since there aren't as many, and I figure they'll be harder to find in later years. Then perhaps a K31 once I've farmiliarized myself with reloading 7.5 swiss. Should I ever find myself with enough brass, I might consider it for hunting as well.
 
...[steps out of closet] I like my K-11 more than either of my K-31s. [steps back in closet]...:D

The K-31 is a slick rifle and as accurate as a pregnancy test nine months after conception. But I find the K-11's dimensions a bit more erogonomic and mine gives me groups with open sights that I'd be pleased with from a scoped hunting rifle. The K-11 sighting plane is about 2.5" shorter than on the K-31 and the latter's receiver area is smaller due to the front locking lugs, but they're both engineered and built like fine Swiss watches and I've seen the K-11 at slightly better prices and in better condition than many K-31s being sold commercially.

Best be safe though, get both!
 
K-31 definitely I have had no issues with accuracy with i plus it's easier to carry and quicker to shoulder and point. Stronger action and you can get a scope mount ( I believe Calgary shooting Center has them) that requires NO machining or drilling and tapping at also no permanent modification done to your milsurp thus it will retain it's value better. The 1911's are very nice as well but I would use the k-31 more as a shooter. Watch out the Swiss rifles are addictive I managed to go all the way and get a ZFK-55 but they are not at all easy to find and very expensive. the 7.5x55 would work excellent for hunting too using a standerd .308 bullet size it gives you tons of options.
 
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