C no.7 / #7MkI

FWIW I was shown a .303 Enfield sporter a couple of years ago, that was built on a Cno7 1944 receiver.
I passed on it. The combo did not appeal to me for some reason, a worse bitster than usual.

No idea who built it up but it looked fine.

There are plenty of Cno7 receivers floating around, I know someone who has some, know others than have others. The problem is finding barrels and the other specific Cno7 parts.

I really think someone should produce some sleeved to .22 barrels from shot out .303 tubes.
 
I posted in the MILSURP forum that I was able to contact an old friend who advised that he had built several rifles chambered for the .223 Rem on the C No 7 actions and that they worked out as well as his .223 conversions on No 4 actions. There were no issues with safety or functionality. Just for "sh*ts and grins" I'm thinking of procuring a C No 7 receiver and building a "frankenrifle" on it using a Savage No4 barrel that I have on hand. I recall the hole on the right side of the receiver for the C No 7 rear sight lateral screw being somewhat larger than on the No4 receiver. A bushing might work here.

Inserting a .22 sleeve in a No4 barrel is a pretty straight forward job. Might contact Bits and Pieces here in BC and get a quote on this. C No 7 rear sights are a bit of a bear to find. The only other unique parts are the bolt heads, firing pins, extractors, strikers, and front sight blocks. Standard No4 strikers could be cut short to work. The No4 front sight block would be OK on a sleeved No4 barrel.
 
get yourself a winchester mod 67 .22 barrel .there the right diameter and taper. have a gunsmith sleeve it into a No 4 barrel stub, and cut the new chamber, crown and install front sight block. will try and post some pics tomorrow. it not a big job if you own a lathe.
 
All the no7s i Built i just religned a.303 barrel with a sleeve and they work great i build these quite frequently and they shoot like lasers
:)
 
Do you have a lathe? And a chambering reamer?

for chambering my .22's i just use a #1 drill bit and follow saami spec for the sporting sporting chamber no lathe needed just a tap handle (i use a piece of tubing over the drill thats soldered on as a stop)

i can get my uncle to turn me some plugs at work for the chamber
 
If anyone can find an original DCRA 7.62 conversion built on a C7 action I guess that would seal the matter as Long Branch did the conversions and they wouldn't have done it if the actions weren't up to it. But is such a rifle out there?
 
for chambering my .22's i just use a #1 drill bit and follow saami spec for the sporting sporting chamber no lathe needed just a tap handle (i use a piece of tubing over the drill thats soldered on as a stop)

i can get my uncle to turn me some plugs at work for the chamber

You are soliciting business, offering to sleeve No. 4 barrels to .22, using jackleg, improvised methods?
SAAMI .22lr chamber specs can be achieved with a #1 drill, twisted in by hand? Which drill do you use to cut the rim recess? Do you do this by hand as well?
Have you ever sleeved a .303 barrel to .22, and installed it on a rifle?
Or will your first customer be your first attempt?
 
You are soliciting business, offering to sleeve No. 4 barrels to .22, using jackleg, improvised methods?
SAAMI .22lr chamber specs can be achieved with a #1 drill, twisted in by hand? Which drill do you use to cut the rim recess? Do you do this by hand as well?
Have you ever sleeved a .303 barrel to .22, and installed it on a rifle?
Or will your first customer be your first attempt?

its not hard to drill the lands out on a .303 barrel to 5/16(.3125") i already spent my money on the drill to reline .22's that have bad barrels

i use a letter L bit for the rim on my jacos

i was joking in the begining just saying anyone can do it with a 5/16" aircraft drill and a shot out barrel would be even easier
 
Using hand held #1 and L drill bits to cut .22LR chambers is second rate improvised gunsmithing. Zipgun level gunsmithing.

There are no FRT numbers for any of the Jaco design pistols.
That means none have been registered in Canada.
 
Using hand held #1 and L drill bits to cut .22LR chambers is second rate improvised gunsmithing. Zipgun level gunsmithing.

There are no FRT numbers for any of the Jaco design pistols.
That means none have been registered in Canada.

who said anything about pistols :p

not really not every one has a $7000+ dollar lathe to do there gunsmithing on

imporvised is my way of being able to do things the #1 drill with the stop soldered on can be used in a drill but i like to take things slow
 
There are a couple of issues with respect to making up a .22RF Lee Enfield. There are C No. 7 receivers available. They look new, but if you examine one carefully, you will see that these have been refinished, before being placed in stores as spares. It is my understanding that the ones floating around are from a batch of about 400. These receivers are not expensive. Of course, a No. 4 receiver can be used. This simulates a No. 9 rifle.
An available .22 barrel can be fitted into a breechpiece made from either a .303 barrel or a piece of barstock. The trick is to find a long enough .22 barrel. Because of the stocking, it is not apparent that such a barrel has been used. Take a No. 4 front sight base, sleeve it with a bushing and fit this to the replacement barrel.
If you look at the breeching of a .303, you will notice that there is a gap between the breechface of the barrel and the boltface. This is where the rim sits, and the gap is related to headspace. For a .22, an altered .303 barrel has to be brought back to the boltface. You cannot have over 1/16" of .22 case hanging out in the breeze. There are two ways to eliminate this gap. The barrel's shoulder can be machined back one turn, and the breechface altered. If this is done, the forend nosecap and upper handguard cap will have to be set back as well.
Or, when a filler piece for the .303 chamber is machined, it can have a flange incorporated which serves to lengthen the barrel some 1/16". This chamber filler can be soldered or bonded into place. If a 5/16" liner is used, the liner drill is run right through the bore and the chamber insert after the insert is installed. The chamber filling insert can be machined to resemble a .303 case, or the chamber can be opened out and a cylindrical insert installed. Ream the chamber after the breeching is done.
A .303 bolthead can be adapted for rimfire, if a .22 bolthead cannot be located. The firing pin hole is plugged, and an offset two diameter hole machined for the .22 firing pin. A .22 extractor will be need, and can be made if necessary. A .303 firing pin can be easily altered to be used with a floating .22 firing pin.
I've converted No. 4s using both barrel systems, and both work.
If I do another it will be a SMLE, simulating the WWI period training rifles.
No. 5 lookalikes in .22LR have been made, as well.
Years ago I had an unfinished C No. 7 barrel with a bad bore near the muzzle, sold it as is. I know it was used to make a No. 5 pattern rifle in .22RF. Big advantage to making a No. 5ish rifle is that the shorter barrel makes finding a suitable .22 barrel that much easier.
 
who said anything about pistols :p.....

You did. In another thread, you stated you had made a Jaco pistol, and registered it in the "normal" manner.
There are no FRT numbers for any Jaco Design guns, long or short.
 
What we do is we ream out the inside diameter of the .303 barrel ream out the .303 chamber make a plug with a doner barrel to fill gap in the chamber soder barrel front and back cut extractor grooves headspace this can be achieved for roughly 250$
 
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